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Wow and goody goody gum drops!
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Looking good, my favourite detail has to be the liquid about to slop out of his cup with abandon:)
Should have got one of these to lead those booze fuelled, nymph chasing, hoof and bow merchants I've got lurking in the shed! Great work, looking forward to the update this weekend. Cheers Stu
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He still needs his emblem on the 'necklace' or whatever it is
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What a jolly fellow he is! Looks great Fitz! Looking forward to seeing Aeneas.
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Awsome! I was really looking forward to this Demigod. Satyrs felt lonely, you know.
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![]() BlazeXI said:Yeah, he's going to look great with the Satyrs. We need to do a few 'partying' models to go along with them... ![]()
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Trojan Casualty aka "drunk off his centaur"
I am getting entirely distracted. I was not primarily excited by Hephaestus and then came the mini... All the little iconic details and the physical character of the mini made me want to have an Hephaestus warband, especially with the addition of the automatons. Now, I am lit with anticipation about Dionysus too. WELL DONE! The tiny detail make such a difference. He looks sweaty and heavy handed, carousing with highly authentic kylix of wine in hand. Can't wait!
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Here's the latest, Aeneas, prince of Troy.
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Aeneas. YES. He looks great! Am a happy future Trojan commander this morning! :) Thanks Fitz!!
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Wonderful! Glad I went Trojan.
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Looks like I will be buying Trojans as well
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Fitz, just to make sure...is the shield going to be molded onto Aeneas? Or will it be separate? Not sure if you were adding it for the total effect while you were working...or even how that whole process would go, actually. i guess you have to fit the shields at some time or another no matter if they are separate or not, right?
Thanks!
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![]() Hektor said:Aeneas' shield is a separate piece. So, you could give him a different one if you wanted, etc.
I generally make all the shields separate pieces, unless the model's pose/constriction demands that the arm is included.
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This is a really nice mini, a true leader of my will be Troy - Amazon forces
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Damn you are a mighty fine sculptor sir!!
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So Chris, got a status for us? The Demi-gods being cast? All Trojans complete and now being molded? We still waiting until the Oracle and Helen are complete first? etc....?
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Trojans are indeed late, but out of all the kickstarters and indiegogos I have taken part in, only these have been on time that were ready before the crowdfunding campaigns were initiated. Only exception being Deep Wars by Antimatter games (great product, delivered fast, but small backing level of 24kUSD).
Most important is the quality of minis, than the delivery time. Personally I would hate if quality was sacrificed in order to rush things and be on time. Also, the number of models ulocked was probably bigger than initially planned. It has to cause delays.
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I don't have an issue with delays, I understand the complexity and time it takes to get the details just right (and I expect the details to be great from Croc), It is just that I have been caught in the time warp of "Croc Time" for years and was hoping for more transparency with this project. I am NEVER dissapointed with the work Chris and his team deliver, I am just very anxious to get painting and gaming!
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Osiris
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![]() Alcibia said:The sculpture of the Oracle is close to being finished, if things go we'll I'll be able to show her off in the update this weekend. The last of the Demigod molds are being pressed this week, and I'll be going out to inspect the master castings for the last 2 (Hecate and Dionysus) on Friday. If those look good we'll be able to start production castings for the Demigods next week. Fingers crossed they came out OK!
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yeah, that kind of info. I will now calm down. (briefly!). thanks Chris.
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I like it! Nice job!
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Osiris
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The Oracle is nearly presentable, I should have photos of her in the next 24 hours - stay tuned!
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Cool, can't wait to see her. Also, let us know about your trip to the mold maker last Friday, are you happy with what you found?
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tuning... turning dial to the left... then to the right
waiting for a transmission
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I'm starting to get withdrawal symptoms,haven't bought minnis in 2 months waiting for the croc stuff,have gotten so desperate I've started paint a friends warmachine stuff Jon
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OK, here's the latest progress on the Oracle. At this point she's about 90% complete, I just have to sculpt her hands, some drapery work on her shroud, and either coals or water in the basin of the tripod.
She presented quite a lot of design challenges, especially with the tripod's legs (something with 3 legs is difficult to mold in a way that it can be produced without distortion/molding problems. We have to produce a LOT of her (all of our $160+ rewards get her) so ease-of-production is a big consideration. Hopefully this will work!
I'll make an overall update on Kickstarter in a couple days, as soon as her last bits are finished. I don't mind showing off 'in-progress' shots on this forum...
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whoa.
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Lovin' it!
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Great job! Stunning! I love it!
I assume it is the angle that makes her head look a bit round since i can only see it on one of the shots. But could we get a shot straight from the front? Also is it possible to mould the coal as a separate bit? That means you could choose if you wanted coal or water yourself :-) It might not be possible because of the extra work, I just wanted to ask in either case ;-)
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Wow! Love it!
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Osiris
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![]() Zebb said:I think there would be a fit issue if the contents of the basin were separate (there will be some distortion when the parts are molded).
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Superb work as always sir. Kudos.
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Beautiful. Great work as always. Thanks for the update Fitz!
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EPIC!
What size base you think will be needed for her?
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She looks great!
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![]() Akori said:I've put her on an integral base (like the Mysterious Stranger miniature). She does not really fit on a 20 or 25 slotta, so I think this is the best solution... nearly complete now!
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Great work as always. She really rocks. Tony
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Hi so just for my own info. What is the status of the armies. I mean which ones are ready? Being worked on? Still in the concept stage. I been trying to get an idea so I get a rough idea where figure are in the development of the project. I got a Amazon army with Hecate and Artemis. Plus all these unlock figures. I am just wondering some news cause I don't get any on the KS site.
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Oracle looks great. Any updates on the demigods rules?
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![]() Cavalier1645 said:I'm trying to focus on the stuff that was scheduled first, so it's Demigods - then the Trojans - then the Amazons. We're running about 2 months behind on these, but I'm finished all of the miniatures and components as fast as I can. We expect to start shipping the Painter-level rewards very soon - all of the Demigods have been molded and I'll be picking up the first production castings this week. Trojans will be a little later, as I still have to finish Helen of Troy, and a couple bits (Battle Honors shields, sword arms). About half of their molds are now complete. Amazons come after the Trojans, and I'll have several models to complete for them. I expect to be finished with Helen and the last of the Trojans by the 15th of November, and after that I'll be on the Amazons 100% - so we can expect to start seeing some new greens for the Amazons completed in early December - they will have a lot of components to be molded (just like the Trojans) so I'll be posting updates as we get the last greens and molds completed.
As for the latest progress, the Oracle is now 100% complete!
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Good stuff. Where does the automaton minotaur fall in?
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Osiris
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![]() boltman201 said:Automatons should be with the Amazons.
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Cheers for the update Chris! : )
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Osiris
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And done!
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Nice! useful piece for an objective driven game.
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Thanks for the automaton update.
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Will she have game rules at all? I forget...
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Maybe the Greek version of the 'Riddle of the Sphynx" scenario?
She looks great all put together!
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I so need to get another oracle,
When I graduate (a BA majoring in Ancient Histroy), I was thinking of giving some of my lecturers a painted mini as a thank you gift. Croc has given me so many ideas! My closest lecturer, who I am likely do do Masters with, did his PhD on Prophetic speech, and was the first to prove the Delphic oracle spoke in her own voice (not gibberish as translated by men). This mini is perfectly clothed, I didn't want to give him anything too racy. Tom will be given a Demigod of Dionysus, he is an expert in Republican Rome, but he looks like the figure, especially the cheeky gleam in his eyes. Peter will get a Roma emperor. For Susanne, who is an Egyptologist I will paint up a Priestess of Bast. Paul will get a Spartan something. I would like to give him a Corinthian Captain/hero but they wont be ready in time.
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In addition to the 165 Trojans and Amazons I ordered, I did a separate PayPal pledge for one of the demi-gods. Am I likely to see this figure on my doorstep in the near future, or has everything been moved back again?
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![]() Alcibia said:If you made a separate pledge for a Demigod + shipping, it will be going out with the first wave (of the 'Painter' rewards, some of these are shipping this week.)
Please send specific reward questions to us directly through Kickstarter, so that Debs can make whatever notations are needed to your survey & rewards. This thread is for showing off images of new greens and art, lets keep it focused on the fun stuff. Thanks!
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Let me apologize, it was never my intention to allow my enthusiasm to make me a nuisance.
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Sculpting progress continues! While working on Helen of Troy, I've been finishing up the last of the Trojan poses, and there are 4 here to show off - Swordsman, Musician, Archer #3 and Archer Captain. These guys are making their first appearance here, but they are already at our moldmaker's for their master-mold now!
I'm still working on Helen, but she is coming along slower than I would like, as most of the last week was spent getting the Demigod miniatures out the door. I'll get pics of her up as soon as she feels she is looking presentable, but it will be a few days...
And now, more Trojans!
The musician pictured above also comes with a shield, but I did not have any handy when taking the photo.
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Sculpts are looking cool as always...you must be pleased to see the first batch of rewards going out! I bet sorting through everything can seem a tad daunting.
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Looking great Chris, pleased I pledged for a swordsmen unit.
Plenty of detail in relief, should be a pleasure to paint. Just out of interest did you end up doing all the shield options? Cheers Stu
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Chris - Magnificent sculpts as always. Well worth waiting for. IMHO, WarGods are the best looking minis out there - bar none !
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Fantastic! Looks great!
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Great job really regretting not buying these first
Jon
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an update this week?
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Osiris
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I'm still struggling with Helen sculpture, she is proving to be one of the most troublesome figures I've worked on recently. (No surprise really, considering all the trouble she caused for Menalaus back in the day!) I've had a couple false starts on her, but the latest revision is starting to shape up. I'll be posting pics as soon as she nears completion, but that will be a while yet.
For those who are eager to see something new and 'green', check out this thread: 'Generic' Hoplite Tread (images page 2)
I just posted some pics of the 'generic' Hoplite I've been working on-and-off the last couple months. More bits for him are coming in the future!
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I realize last week was a holiday event, but am wondering how that Helen is progressing. (not to mention the rest)
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![]() Alcibia said:Chris is back to work on her after the holiday, she's starting to look vaguely human and female. ![]()
We're in the middle of changing our internet service provider, but we should be back online this friday. If all goes well we will have an update this weekend, with pictures! Debs
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Thanks very much!
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Osiris
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Nearly there guys! I was hoping to have Helen wrapped up today, but she still needs some work on her face and hair - hopefully I'll have her finished in the next day or so... stay tuned!
We just got the metals of the Oracle as well, the mold turned out beautifully!
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What does "nearly there guys" mean?
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OK, that earlier post got away before I had completed it! sorry, basically I was curious about general progress and if I am in the wrong place I apologize, but I think, based on past posts that the Trojans should be pretty much complete, the archers for Mycenae and Sparta as well - although we have not seen the leaders for them yet, we still have the Mycenaean peltasts and Spartan swordsmen on the horizon as well. So, I guess what I am wondering is: with Helen almost there, are the second wave miniatures from the kickstarter (the Trojans) ready soon so we can start getting pumped up for the Amazon greens which should be popping up any minute as well!
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What we need is a work-o-meter :)
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The only problem with seeing all these great greens is that it makes me wish I had a bigger gaming budget :(
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![]() Alcibia said:I meant I'm nearly done with Helen. After she's done we'll be getting the Trojans rewards ready for shipping, and once that's done I'll be on the Amazons. Please keep in mind it takes be about 2 weeks to sculpt a figure, and complicated models take longer, so there is still a while before I'll be posting Amazons. ![]() Todd is doing the Archers and Peltasts for the other citystates. We have to compete with other companies for his sculpting time, but he's now currently working on the Peltasts, so we should be able to show off the first of their models fairly soon. Please bear with me guys, we'll have some more cool stuff to show off very soon!
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Ok sounds great Chris
Tony
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I'm happy to wait as your stuff is well worth it!
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Osiris
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OK, she's about 99% complete, so let's show her off! All that really remains are her slotta-tab, the straps on the rear sandal (I need to remove her from the cork to get in close enough to sculpt them) and few clean-ups here and there.
Beauty is a very subjective thing, and to sculpt 'the most beautiful woman in history' that pleases everyone is probably an impossible task. I've tried to stick closely the Des' concept design. We loosely based her appearance on a young Sophia Loren, and for the sculpture I tried to give her something of an otherworldly air with her pose and face, as if her physical appearance closely resembled the stylized form of art that the greeks used - that would be the standard of beauty for the day. Hopefully this is a subtle effect, and I'm looking forward to seeing her painted - after looking at her in green for so long, seeing her in color will be a welcome change! Thanks to everyone for their patience with me as I worked on this mini. Some figures are very challenging, I could probably have sculpted half a dozen rough-and-tumble warriors with swords and spears in the time it to to make her! I'll be cleaning her up and taking some more photos on a base to send out in a general update this weekend. Hope you guys like her!
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This is a really lovely sculpt, even for me being not too great a fan of Sophia :-) , thanks for that.
All the infos about the other progresses (archers, peltasts) are appreciated a lot, as they give me the happy feeling that my Trojan/Amazon army is will show up at my door step early next year :-)) cheers Thomas
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FANTASTIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done! Made me a very happy chappy!
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Worth the wait. Great job, Fitz! Guess we better start building a thousand ships now...
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Very nice! I think you may need to consider actually selling this in the store once the KS people get their free copy! I could see painting this model as Helen (of course) but also with a variant paint scheme she could be used for Medea, Circe, Ariadne etc....just sayin'
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She looks really great. I myself would also lauch a 1,000 ships and fight a 10 year War to recover her beauty SoCal Tony.
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Actually I agree with Alcibia about putting her on your website for everyone once us Kickstarter chaps get ours! She is too good to just be an exclusive - give everyone a chance to paint her! : )
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![]() GarethPannan said:I don't think we could do that; she was promoted as a Kickstarter exclusive, and it would not be right to turn around and sell her separately. I'm not going to rule out doing alternate versions of her and the Oracle, with different heads/details, but that would not be until all my promised Kickstarter minis are completed.
Folks who still want to get her can still join up by the Paypal Pledging - I've been holding off closing it until I got the last of the 'exclusive' minis done.
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Really nice Fitz, 2014 is shaping up to be a great year for painting!
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well as long as you are considering alternate poses or details for the Oracle and Helen, I guess I will be happy!
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That's cool! If I wasn't in the KS I'd be happy to get an alternate version. You're just too darn good at this sculpting marlarky!
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That is a genius sculpt, I just love it.
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Well worth the wait!
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Looks great!
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I noticed you processed my latest order on New Year's Day! Sorry you had to work on a holiday, but since you were working, you must have some Kickstarter news for us, don't you? (anything at all?)
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Happy New Year everyone!
The latest greens from Todd have arrived, the Peltasts! Their shield arms are all separate pieces, similar to the Spartan and Trojan Peltasts.
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ooOOooooOOOOH!
I like those! This just keeps getting better and better! -Alex
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So, what's up for this week's update? Some new Amazon greens? Or how about showing us what Trojan shields you decided to put into production. That way, those of us who pledged for Trojans can start day dreaming about what shield options we may choose once the shipping starts. But I will, of course, enjoy seeing anything you are willing to share!
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The new update should be ready tomorrow. Good idea on the Trojan shields, we'll get a compiled photo of all of them and add it to the update.
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That's going to start my weekend nicely! Looking forward to the update. : )
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Still working on the shield images for the update, but here's a preview of a Trojan we've not shown off before... the Trojan Captain!
He'll come with a couple more options for his hand - a spear and a sword. The idea with him was to make him look like he could be leading a unit or riding in a chariot. Hope you guys like him! (Edited: I just realized I called him the Hero, this is the Captain model! Updated the photo with the correct title.)
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Fancy! I am getting so excited for Trojans!
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Looks great Chris
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of course he looks great, is he second hero choice? how does this one fit in? we did see one Trojan hero quite a while ago (still pictured on the Kickstarter page), so which one comes with the orders we placed, or is this the Tragic Hero we will see this summer?
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Hey guys, any updates?
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How about the Trojan Shields? Based on past comments, the Trojans should be in production either now or shortly, time to start putting our orders together for shipping?
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With the Trojan sculptures all complete and at the moldmaker, work has now moved on to the Amazons!
![]() Here are the other 2 variations for the Amazon warriors, without helmets. (The rear-rank-no-helmet is already complete, visible on the Kickstarter page). This completes all the models for the basic unit, with the characters still to go. The torsos for the Peltasts and Archers are also all done, and these will be going to our moldmaker this week to be made into intermediates. For those curious about the sculpting process, I'll post some pics of these tomorrow (we'll be having a Kickstarter Update then too.) Here are the latest ladies:
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Cheers Chris, they look great.
At this stage is there a rough estimate of when these girls will be done?
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Looking good. Can't wait for July to get the full Olympus book.
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Sweet. Moving forward is always good.
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As the Amazons are what my Olympian pledge is made up of I'm very happy with these and the other Amazon's that have been shown. Huzzah!!!!
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I am older now, and easily confused, but I am pretty sure this quote from Wednesday would mean that yesterday would have been tomorrow, but is today tomorrow? was yesterday tomorrow? what day is tomorrow? or for that matter, what day is today?
"The torsos for the Peltasts and Archers are also all done, and these will be going to our moldmaker this week to be made into intermediates. For those curious about the sculpting process, I'll post some pics of these tomorrow (we'll be having a Kickstarter Update then too.)" Anything you can share regardless of what day it is?
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I was not happy with the last 2 Amazons posted, so I did a bit more work on them and updated the picture in my last post. (Basically gave them both the sleeved tunic, and added the sword-arm on the front-rank instead of the spear.)
The Kickstarter update is taking a bit longer than expected, but we'll have it out this weekend. In the mean-time, here's another green that has just rolled off the assembly-line:
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Sweet looking model Chris the Women of Olympus are really looking awesome.
Oh and by the way I played a game last night against an Amazon Warband being lead by a Daughter of Ares. Wow talk about tough, two units of slingers with a Misc rating of 5 is brutal. And with the special rule "Hatred of Men" all the Amazons had an Attack rating of 5. Also the Battle Honor Spear Sisters is really wick after two rounds of melee with my Corinthian phalanx. The Sisters had lost enough warriors to have a +3 damage modifier. My phalanx did not last to long after that. But it was a great game and a great opponent. Thanks Joe (Akori)
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You are making me a very happy chappy Chris! Well done. : )
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Cracking stuff! Looking forward to these :-D
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Chris as always, appreciate the update and they look great.
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Great work!
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Amazon progress continues!
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And here's a photo of one of these cast, with the master casting right next to the original. Halfway there with another Amazon!
I'll post more progress on these in a few weeks, when I get castings of both back from our moldmaker.
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