Hector green! Seeing him blown up on the screen, I realize I forgot the buckle on his belt, so I'll add that in yet.

Only Paris left for the 'Gates of Troy' wave!

I'm loving the detail and variety on the Amazon cavalry! And Hector's intricate armor shouts "POWER", even without his buckle

Looking forward to seeing Paris - keep the updates coming!

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Strong man Hector!! His blade is big.

2 days for have comments... Maybe use the Facebook for show green, promote WarGods and Crocodile Games is more appropriate than a dead forum with no noticications? :/

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Or do both

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Loving the look of the Amazons, the one on the right in particular. I detect a Scythian vibe...

Cheers

Stu

Good news! Todd Harris is back on the project!

Todd has ridden to the rescue, and is helping to take up the slack on the sculpting so I can focus on the last of the rules stuff.

Here are his first new figs - the Cyclopes!

Each of these has a head that is a separate part, and are interchangeable with each other. Also, the belt-gear bits are also separate and interchangeable.

We could not be more pleased with these, and we hope you guys like them too! He's now working on the Harpies, and we are hoping to have the last of the Kickstarter sculpts finished in the next few weeks.

And here they are:

With a Trojan, for scale.

View from the back, showing their belt gear - one with forge equipment, and the other with "lunch", a cow-leg and an amphorae of wine!

Posed with Hephaestus, sorry this one is a little blurry, their heavy footsteps made the camera shake!

This one has their heads swapped!

Chris,

Wow! Those Cyclopes look great! I'm looking forward to the massive conflicts my Titan Hunters are going to have against those monstrosities!

Great job, Todd!

Any update on the new steeds/chariot horses and MDF chariot bases getting added to the online store?

I hope you and Debs make it out to GenCon this year. It seems like we haven't seen Crocodile Games in the Dealer's Room in a very long time

Your Fellow Gamer, Kevin

Wow, Looking great!! : )

Asian Sensation said:
Chris,

Wow! Those Cyclopes look great! I'm looking forward to the massive conflicts my Titan Hunters are going to have against those monstrosities!

Great job, Todd!

Any update on the new steeds/chariot horses and MDF chariot bases getting added to the online store?

I hope you and Debs make it out to GenCon this year. It seems like we haven't seen Crocodile Games in the Dealer's Room in a very long time

Your Fellow Gamer, Kevin

Thanks Kevin!

The horse masters are at the moldmakers, I'll make them available as soon as we get the production molds. They have a big pile of them (most of the Gates of Troy models) at the moment. Hopefully not too long now!

Yeah, we'll be at GenCon, we're going to share a space with Pulp Figures.

Really would like to know if my athenians and corinthians are in the post yet?

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AWESOME!

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hazpak said:
Really would like to know if my athenians and corinthians are in the post yet?

I was casting all last week - the last bits and stragglers to pack the remaining Corinth and Athens deals, and we got a couple dozen packed over the weekend. We should be shipping anyone who is still waiting on these this week.

Good news indeed - cyclops look awesome too

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Cyclops look amazing! Please remember to post a picture of entire new collection once the sculpting is finished. Bet the sight will be jaw dropping.

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TOP NOTCH!

Very impressed, now I just need the pound to get strong enough to up my pledge:)

Cheers

Stu

Osiris said:
Good news! Todd Harris is back on the project!

Todd has ridden to the rescue, and is helping to take up the slack on the sculpting so I can focus on the last of the rules stuff.

Here are his first new figs - the Cyclopes!

Each of these has a head that is a separate part, and are interchangeable with each other. Also, the belt-gear bits are also separate and interchangeable.

We could not be more pleased with these, and we hope you guys like them too! He's now working on the Harpies, and we are hoping to have the last of the Kickstarter sculpts finished in the next few weeks.

And here they are:

With a Trojan, for scale.

View from the back, showing their belt gear - one with forge equipment, and the other with "lunch", a cow-leg and an amphorae of wine!

Posed with Hephaestus, sorry this one is a little blurry, their heavy footsteps made the camera shake!

This one has their heads swapped!

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Awesome as always Chris. I will have to order some now.

NorCal Tony

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Is there any plan to sculpt a figure depicting the Amazon Manhunter as described in their PDF or is that supposed to be a conversion?

Wow great stuff.

Also just saw the amazons available in the online store!

Is late pledging still open for the Cyclopes and the mounted amazons? (Can already see the Cyclopes running around yelling nobody is attacking me!)

Doug said:
Is there any plan to sculpt a figure depicting the Amazon Manhunter as described in their PDF or is that supposed to be a conversion?

Yes, I'll be doing a Manhunter - she'll be part of a 3rd wave, along with some more Amazon models - the War Witch, some hero variations, and some axe options for the front rank warriors (instead of spears or swords). We're close to being done with all the KS minis, so hopefully I'll get to work on her before the year is out.

Marius said:
Wow great stuff.

Also just saw the amazons available in the online store!

Is late pledging still open for the Cyclopes and the mounted amazons? (Can already see the Cyclopes running around yelling nobody is attacking me!)

Thanks! Yes, you can still back the Gates of Troy, Amazon Attack, and monsters until we start shipping them.

Good news on the monster front as well - a package arrived this weekend from Todd, and all of the Harpy sculpts are now done - pics coming tomorrow!

Chris that is awesome news.

Its also great to see this stuff moving along again.

My package arrived :)

now just one to go

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A flock of Harpies have descended upon Crocodile Games!

Todd's second batch of Harpies arrived in the mail last week, and I finally found some time on the 4th of July to go out and cast the masters from his first set - now we can show them all off!

I think these look great, slightly taller than man-sized, just large enough to be believable that they could pick up a person in their claws. Hope you guys like these:

I've also finished the last bit for the Troy War Altar.

What I have made is a small shrine, that contains a tiny statue of Athena. It could also be used with any of the other war altars for a Demigoddess of Athena. (We only have a Spartan altar at the moment, but if sales are good we may make the other factions.)

The little statue of Athena inside is meant to be the Palladium. For those who are not familiar with the legends surrounding Troy, it basically goes like this - Zeus was fond of the Trojans, and so he commanded Athena to give them a sacred statue of herself (or sometimes it is said he threw it down from Olympus himself.) So long as the statue remained within the walls of Troy, the city would not fall. During the Trojan war, pesky Odysseus and is buddy Diomedes infiltrated the city and stole the statue, thus opening the way for the city's eventual defeat. Later legends say that it was then carried away by Aeneas as he escaped from the burning city, and he and the remaining Trojans carried it with them until they finally founded the city that would eventually become Rome. I've always loved the story, and so it was fun to sculpt it! It is a bit like an ancient-greek 'ark of the covenant' as shown in the Indiana Jones movies.

Here's a photo from an ancient vase, showing Diomedes stealing the Palladium - it is meant to be small!

And so without further ado, I give you... the Palladium! :D

The shrine looks a little funny, as it is made with several different types of putty and plasticard - that's why it has all the different colors. The cast part should look better, all in one color.

It is likely that this element will have to be made in resin, as the Beesputty structure probably could not handle vulcanization.

Here's a closer view, so you can just see the little Athena inside the shrine:

Wow, the Harpies as well as the War Altar - great stuff

I have just spent money on the Gates of Troy and now seeing this I have to put some more aside for he next waves

cheers Thomas

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Blimey you're having a productive summer, bravo!

All looks excellent, be interested to see the war altars for the remaining factions someday.

Harpies look great, as do the cyclops, looking forward to seeing the hydra, be intrigued to see if you go with resin?

Cheers

Stu

Really looking good.

Tony

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Looks great. And the Kickstarter is looking to be fulfilled before Christmas. Once it is done you need to check what models are missing for Aegyptus and Olympus, plan a sculpting schedule and with half of this done Run a 'gap filling' kickstarter.

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BlazeXI said:
Looks great. And the Kickstarter is looking to be fulfilled before Christmas. Once it is done you need to check what models are missing for Aegyptus and Olympus, plan a sculpting schedule and with half of this done Run a 'gap filling' kickstarter.

Great idea! I will support that one if it comes. Especially specialist for Olympus.

DJ

Having thought long and hard about this. I would not support another kickstarter unless the stated delivery times are more realistic. I also don't have the disposable income anymore but that is beside the point.

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hazpak said:
Having thought long and hard about this. I would not support another kickstarter unless the stated delivery times are more realistic. I also don't have the disposable income anymore but that is beside the point.

Agree with Hazpak here - not only that I no longer have the disposable income, but this has dragged on a lot longer than originally anticipated. Unfortunately I think part of the problem is that it got bigger than originally planned.

I've noticed a shift in miniatures kickstarters since this one ran, with many more picking a limited number of figures and stopping adding goals when they hit that point, also running them for much shorter periods (I've seen a few for a single figure running as 24 hours projects, or 3-7 figures as 1 week projects).

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the comments guys, and for the fair criticisms. Rest assured, we're not planning another Kickstarter at the moment - right now all of our energies are devoted to finishing up the last elements for this one.

Once the last of our rewards have shipped, we'll sit down and do a wrap-up, to figure out what exactly went awry and how we can do better next time. It is plain to see that we got overextended on this, so if we do do future programs they will certainly be more modest, with goals that can be achieved in a much shorter time. But that's a conversation for later, we still have plenty of work to do on this one, even if the end is in sight.

Back on the subject of the minis - I've just finished cleaning all the masters for the Gates of Troy wave production molds, as well as the Mycenaean Chariot, and the first mold of the monsters. I'm hoping to be able to start shipping the Gates of Troy in August, with the Monsters and Mycenaean Chariot right after - assuming we don't have big delays on the moldmaking (fingers crossed.) I should have a better idea about them later this week.

Next up on the sculpting table is Paris and the Hydra. No pictures to show yet, but they are underway.

I have moved country twice since the kickstarter started/finished. Whats the best way of getting you my new address?

Chris,

With GenCon only several days away, I'm very anxious to get my hands on some of the miniatures that I didn't order through the Kickstarter campaign. What do you plan on having with you for purchase at the Croc booth this year?

Any special offers?

I look forward to seeing you.

Thanks!

Respectfully, Kevin

Great work as always! I for one am very happy with the miniatures i got from the Kickstarter and would seriously check another Kickstarter if you did one. I can only speak for myself but the sheer quality of what you do makes the waiting well worth it! :) I would love an art book of your worlds but that is just me being selfish! Keep up the top work guys & gals. : )

I absolutely agree. Once this ks is fulfilled Please plan a 'gap filling' kickstarter, with small targets reachable in half a year. Anti-matter do it this way, for example.

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Thats a great idea BlaseXI!

so how are we doing - anything to show on the hydra yet? will it be resin too?

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OK, with some assistance from Todd Harris, the Gates of Troy wave sculpting is complete!

As I have had my hands full working on the book, I had Todd do the last Trojan mini - Paris, prince of Troy. The figure was based on John Wigley's concept art, and Todd did a great job matching the Trojans I've already sculpted.

Here's a picture showing Hector next to Todd's Paris - brothers reunited after only 3200 years!

His green is already at the master-mold makers, so hopefully we'll be able to put the Gates of Troy wave into production as soon as possible. I'm currently working on a mounted version of Penthesilea, and after that the last mini - the Hydra. Hope to have some decent pictures of Penny sometime next week.

Thanks for the update Chris.

NorCal Tony

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Nice feeling being close to the end

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The last amazon is complete!

Just put the finishing touches on the mounted version of Penthesilea. I based her pose on a painting by a Franz Stuck, a german painter from the 1800s:

Before anyone asks, no I'm not adding any tack to the horse - she rides a magical horse (a bit like Shadowfax, in LotR) that was a gift to her from the North Wind, and it does not need any!

The rider is likely going to come attached to the horse, her javelin hand and her cape are separate pieces. Here she is, hope you guys like her:

She really looks sweet Chris.

NorCal Tony

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Again splendid work Chris.

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Can not wait till she leads my army into battle

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So just the hydra to go now

:)

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The second labor of Hercules is complete - the Hydra is defeated!

This was quite a departure for me, as I don't typically sculpt a lot of 'monsters'. It went smoothly at first, I sculpted the body (the grey parts) in Beesputty, a type of sculpting clay that is better for doing large, smooth objects, but then started to have a lot of trouble with the finished parts cracking, especially along the necks. So the last week was spent fixing my mistakes, and making a suitable base for it to sit on.

The base will have some additional details (like some more rocks, maybe a few bones from past victims), but I thought you guys would be eager to see it rather than waiting for the last fiddly bits.

With this one being finished, that is the last of all the funded Kickstarter minis. I may yet have a couple Amazon parts to correct for molding, but all the sculpts are now in the bag!

Huzzah!

Wow!

As it's quite large will it be cast in metal or resin?

Thanks,

Kevin

KevinE said:
Wow!

As it's quite large will it be cast in metal or resin?

Thanks,

Kevin

It'll have to be resin at this size.

Amazing work! Definitely looking forward to adding this to my collection!

Speaking of Hercules... perhaps he and his band can make it onto your sculpting table next year?

Wishful thinking aside, congratulations on wrapping up the sculpting on your first Kickstarter! I know that it ran quite a bit longer than expected, but I am sure that I am not alone in saying that the wait has been well worth it! There's naught but molding, casting, sorting, packing and fulfillment left to go - sounds like an action packed Q4!

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Now, will i get it in time for cancon :)

pretty please

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Amazing! I do congratulate finishing the sculpting. Now the book and you are ready for genera? release and fina?y I will be able to get the To-Tanem slingers :)

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Serpentine hydra with an aquatic vibe!

Definitely surpassed the highest expectations:)

Looks absolutely beautiful and significantly different from any versions of this particular beast I've seen.

Top Notch

Cheers

Stu

Lovely work

Great looking model Chris. I guess I will have to add it to my order.

NorCal Tony

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Sooooo

now that the models are done.. hopefully

any word on the book?

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hazpak said:
Sooooo

now that the models are done.. hopefully

any word on the book?

Yes guys, the sculpting on ALL of the models is complete!

I'm picking up the final master mold tomorrow, and I'll be casting the masters over the weekend, and our moldmakers are working on the last of the production molds this month (we have about 20 to go). Hopefully all molds will be done by the end of the month, and we'll be shipping minis before Christmas.

The only holdup is the Hydra, as it is a resin piece it may take a little longer to get molds and castings back.

We are working on the book as well, there are artist and freelance writers working on some elements while I'm taking care of the last production stuff, so it is not standing still. As soon as the last production stuff is finished I'll be able to devote myself to it full time. Things are happening faster now that I'm no longer spending all day sculpting.

Good news

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Will the titan overlord and masters get redone in resin too?

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They're looking great, and it's good that they will soon see the light of day.

Will we get any rules with the hydra or harpies? Cancon is coming up and if i get the models in time i'd love to field them

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Two things

If we already paid for a Trojan chariot are we going to be able to pledge for a second one now that there are two variants?

So while searching for images of War Gods figs on the net. I came across two greens.One of a Spartan archer captain and one Mycenean archer captain. Why aren't these available on the store? All the other figs for those factions are. Pete

FitterPete,

all kickstarter miniatures will be released after all kickstarter deliveries are finished. Fairplay to backers by Croc.

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When will be able to get the Cav. for the Amazons and the Man Hunter?

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How is everything going? Its been 2 months since an update

Are the molds all back?

Where is the book at?

Are we ready to ship miniatures yet?

are we there yet?

are we there yet?

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hazpak said:
How is everything going? Its been 2 months since an update

Are the molds all back?

Where is the book at?

Are we ready to ship miniatures yet?

are we there yet?

are we there yet?

Hey guys,

We've been shipping the Gates of Troy, Amazon Attack, and all the monsters except the Hydra for the last couple weeks. The most of the UK and Europe have shipped and were just getting into the US addresses now. Backers who have a Hydra will have a few more weeks yet, as that is the last mini and it is still being molded. Hopefully soon!

We're planning a complete update for Friday through the Kisckstarter.

We're working on the book as well, waiting on some overdue art to finish up the layout, and painting, painting, and more painting for the galleries. It is coming!

I'll have more info on Friday, with some cool photos to show off.

hazpak said:
How is everything going? Its been 2 months since an update

Are the molds all back?

Where is the book at?

Are we ready to ship miniatures yet?

are we there yet?

are we there yet?

Hey guys,

We've been shipping the Gates of Troy, Amazon Attack, and all the monsters except the Hydra for the last couple weeks. The most of the UK and Europe have shipped and were just getting into the US addresses now. Backers who have a Hydra will have a few more weeks yet, as that is the last mini and it is still being molded. Hopefully soon!

We're planning a complete update for Friday through the Kisckstarter.

We're working on the book as well, waiting on some overdue art to finish up the layout, and painting, painting, and more painting for the galleries. It is coming!

I'll have more info on Friday, with some cool photos to show off.

We’re the new titan mutations in those molds by any chance and can I add them to my order?

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pretty please

*dual post but edited ;)

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I've asked this before If we pledged for a Trojan chariot how do we pick which version we want? Alternatively how do I get both? Is the Mycenean chariot also done?

fitterpete said:
I've asked this before If we pledged for a Trojan chariot how do we pick which version we want? Alternatively how do I get both? Is the Mycenean chariot also done?

There is currently only the 1 version of the Trojan Chariot.

There are 2 versions of the Mycenaean Chariot - the default is the one with the twin lions on the front, and there is a second, more 'generic' looking version that looks to be made of wicker.

If you want the wicker chariot substituted for either, just let us know. It could be crewed by anyone, and we could supply the driver/Hero of your choice.

hazpak said:
We’re the new titan mutations in those molds by any chance and can I add them to my order?

The new Titan variants have not been made into production molds, yet - pretty much all of our moldmaker's time has been taken up by the Kickstarter minis.

If you only want a set or 2 I could get you one of the test runs from the master mold, we have a few spare.

I hope to get them into production later in the year, when the KS stuff is all wrapped up.

Great news Chris. What is your current estimation on finishing the book? Would those titan heads be released along slingers for To-Tanem and Anubi this year?

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Sorry I thought it was a Trojan chariot. I've sent a message thru the contact page. Thanks

Osiris said:

hazpak said:
We’re the new titan mutations in those molds by any chance and can I add them to my order?

The new Titan variants have not been made into production molds, yet - pretty much all of our moldmaker's time has been taken up by the Kickstarter minis.

If you only want a set or 2 I could get you one of the test runs from the master mold, we have a few spare.

I hope to get them into production later in the year, when the KS stuff is all wrapped up.

omg yes i'll take a set or 2

(just what does a set contain?)

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Since most visitors don't scroll down much anymore I've posted some questions in the Olympus sections (a new member has too)

Any thoughts on these would be appreciated

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I’ve lost track - what’s in this final wave?

Also if you are also a lurker on Facebook a community group has also been setup

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Books!

Actually i think it is the Amazon cavalry and the gates of troy stuff, but i have to wait for the book for the rest of my stuff anyway

i don't suppose you can show us all the sculpts for the weapon options? i really like the look of all the swords, and am interested in the variations and decorations on the hilts.

so how goes the Hydra?

Hail HYDRA!!

cough...

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just wondering out loud - nut will there be an eater of the dead faction??

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Isn't that the titans?

not according to the fluff the titans were locked away under the earth and are breaking through

The eaters are described as being a danger to the whole world and originating from a lost city far the the east

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So are we in the U.S. supposed to be getting our Gates of Troy stuff now?

fitterpete said:
So are we in the U.S. supposed to be getting our Gates of Troy stuff now?

are you also getting a hydra? if so we wait if not drop them an email

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No hydra Email been there done that.

so any news yet?

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hazpak said:
so any news yet?

10 March, Chris FitzPatrick : " We're currently preparing to ship the last of the miniature rewards (mostly Amazon Attack and the new Hydras, and those that include them), so lots of packing and sorting miniatures. I'll make some time this weekend for a Kickstarter update as well."

https://www.facebook.com/groups/174096773345919/permalink/204068717015391/

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BlazeXI said:
Great news Chris. What is your current estimation on finishing the book? Would those titan heads be released along slingers for To-Tanem and Anubi this year?

Just catching up on this thread guys, bear with me. Lots of painting, editing, and layout going on the last couple weeks, so I've not been on the sculpting thread!

Blaze, we're trying to have everything done in the next couple months, so we can have the books back from the printer this summer. Lots still to do, but it is getting done!

As for the Titans, Anubi, Totanem, etc - those are lower priority at the moment, sorry! To get them released would slow down the book, etc, so they are waiting until after.

hazpak said:
I’ve lost track - what’s in this final wave?

Also if you are also a lurker on Facebook a community group has also been setup

Amazon Attack, Gates of Troy, and all the monsters - Hydra, Cyclopes, Harpies. All are shipping now.

We are still sending out shipping confirmations for UK, Europe, and overseas, but the last of those should be going out this week.

US backers should have gotten their shipping confirmations by now - if not, please send us a friendly email and we'll track it down for you.

hazpak said:
not according to the fluff the titans were locked away under the earth and are breaking through

The eaters are described as being a danger to the whole world and originating from a lost city far the the east

The Eater of the Dead theoretically could exist in Hellas, but does not hold much power there. The dead of Hellas are the domain of Hades, and their burial customs are different - their dead are not embalmed, and so do not last very long, even if animated. So, the Necromancers go to places with better pickings!

fitterpete said:
So are we in the U.S. supposed to be getting our Gates of Troy stuff now?

Yes, GoT are shipping to US backers now, unless they specifically asked to wait to ship with the book.

I would prefer people got their minis now, so they can get on with the painting, but we do what we are told! :)

Fully understand prioritising. Finishing the Kickstarter is a must. But in spare time please delete spam posts from the forum.

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Yes, please this spams are annoying.....

Got my stuff yesterday, high quality casts as always, so my next step is to stop all other projects and start painting Trojan Wave 2

cheers Thomas

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Time to appoint a community moderator?

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Hey guys, sorry about the spambots - I've asked our web designer to find a solution to keep them out, he's working on something.

In the mean time, if it happens again, please just send me an email or PM on facebook, and I'll log in and delete their account.

I received the last of my miniatures on Saturday (well, they arrived on Wednesday, but Saturday was the first day I could get to the PO Box to pick them up).

Very happy with what I've received, despite the delays, I suppose I now need to 1) Sculpt bases for my Amazon Cavalry; 2) Create Moulds for Amazon Cavalry (infantry moulds already made) 3) Cast bases for the Amazons; 4) Sculpt bases for Athenians/Corinthians; 5) Create moulds for Athenian/Corinthian bases; 6) Cast bases for Athenians/Corinthians; 7) assemble & paint...

Ok, so just a bit of work to do with the....um....200+ minis that I received from this project...

Hoping that we'll have the rulebook before I finish the models

Hi Chris, any word on when the rest of the new stuff will hit the webstore?

Chris,

I loved the PDF previews of the campaign pages from the rule book! Of course, now it just makes me even more impatient for it’s release...

I did notice a couple of spelling and grammatical errors while reading through it. Are you looking for mistakes that might have slipped through the initial edit?

Fantastic work! I’m overly anxious!

Respectfully, Kevin

i wish you released the pdf's for campaign for everyone, not just backers...

thats the benefit of being a backer

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Got the last of my models - just awaiting the rules now

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Hi guys

As a kickstarter backer should I have gotten the campaign link?

The link is in the most recent update

Be nice to have a real rulebook to play with my 400 or so painted Olympus figs.....

After reading the campaign I struggle to see my titan warband in the setting

Hopefully I’m not relegated to monster encounters...

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Sorry was a late backer so did it through the paypal pledging

Ah, that makes sense then

How bout that rulebook?

any new previews of the book? harpies for example?

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Previews? How about a full blown rulebook? It's August 2018.

Have we gone to print yet?

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any news is good news (ok its not but hey)

any news helps me plan for Cancon.

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hazpak said:
any news helps me plan for Cancon.

This, VERY much this!

Hey guys,

Sorry about the lack of posts on this thread - after I finished the last of the sculpts, I've not been back to update it (since they are all done!)

We've been very busy laying out and editing the book, and we've had a couple of our customers with a critical eye helping to catch all of our mistakes. We're at about 85% completion of the text and layout, so it should not be too much longer.

so another 5 weeks have you finished the layout?

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hazpak said:
so another 5 weeks have you finished the layout?

We are getting very close to completion. Page count has now reached 314 pages, and I hope to be able to share a 'beta' draft for players very soon. Please bear with us a little longer.

We have a Kickstarter update going up tomorrow as well, with the much-requested rules for the Amazon Cavalry.

aw come on why are all the new updates backers only?

Because they contain rules excerpts that croc wants to share with backers first

Not wanting to give too much away but The restrictions on page 242 contradict the restrictions on pages 245, 246 and 247

sorry to those that have not yet seen the preview

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hazpak said:
Not wanting to give too much away but The restrictions on page 242 contradict the restrictions on pages 245, 246 and 247

sorry to those that have not yet seen the preview

Hazpak, can you be more specific? I don't see the contradiction, but if something is incorrect, or unclear, let me know and I'll correct it.

On page 242, the Titan Slaves entry it is written a unit of Slaves allowed you to get 2 masters or a single monster option. On the monster entries it is written a monster unit may be chosen in place of a Titan Master.

So, does a Slave unit allow you two monster Units, or one Slave and one monster Unit? Or either 1-2 Masters or one monster unit?

If I have revealed too much, please delete the post.

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Yes that

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BlazeXI said:
On page 242, the Titan Slaves entry it is written a unit of Slaves allowed you to get 2 masters or a single monster option. On the monster entries it is written a monster unit may be chosen in place of a Titan Master.

So, does a Slave unit allow you two monster Units, or one Slave and one monster Unit? Or either 1-2 Masters or one monster unit?

If I have revealed too much, please delete the post.

Ok, thanks. So lets change the Slaves' "Restriction" text to:

Restrictions A Titan Warband may purchase as many units of Titan Slaves as the player desires. Each unit of Slaves allows the warband to include 2 Titan Masters or monster options (Harpies, Spawn of Chimera, or a Hydra).

Osiris said:

BlazeXI said:
On page 242, the Titan Slaves entry it is written a unit of Slaves allowed you to get 2 masters or a single monster option. On the monster entries it is written a monster unit may be chosen in place of a Titan Master.

So, does a Slave unit allow you two monster Units, or one Slave and one monster Unit? Or either 1-2 Masters or one monster unit?

If I have revealed too much, please delete the post.

Ok, thanks. So lets change the Slaves' "Restriction" text to:

Restrictions A Titan Warband may purchase as many units of Titan Slaves as the player desires. Each unit of Slaves allows the warband to include 2 Titan Masters or monster options (Harpies, Spawn of Chimera, or a Hydra).

Perfect!

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excellent. as a titan player ill be going over that section again and again ;)

its actually raised a question about titan melee combat which is not relevant here so im off to the olympus section to type :)

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small spelling issue with the rulebook.... reading the gifts of hades on page 94 (11 of the pdf) specifically power 2 titan slayer, you have written monotaurs as opposed minotaurs

Akenatum said:
small spelling issue with the rulebook.... reading the gifts of hades on page 94 (11 of the pdf) specifically power 2 titan slayer, you have written monotaurs as opposed minotaurs

Got it, thanks Akenatum!

In the Gifts of Hermes section on page 106, it says '10. Weapon of the Gods: Winged Sandals' - presumably this should say 'Gift of the Gods' as it does in the corresponding entry for all of the other Gods.

KevinE said:
In the Gifts of Hermes section on page 106, it says '10. Weapon of the Gods: Winged Sandals' - presumably this should say 'Gift of the Gods' as it does in the corresponding entry for all of the other Gods.

Got it, thanks Kevin!

Will there be rules/stats for the Xerxes model for the Titans?

not sure if this is intended or not... the war witch and crones are listed as having light armour (ar3) and the description says light armour (heavy robes) heavy robes in Ægyptus counting as medium armour /ar4

Assuming this isn't a typo as it's a bit contradictory to other instances of armour, can we possibly change the name to something new for consistancy perhaps?

I think they've used the term light armour to make it clear that it isn't metal armour, i think we could leave it just saying Heave Robes (AR3)

Just working through my warband for Cancon and came across a couple of minor errors in the beta draft

In the Gifts of Hephaestus section on page 101 under Dwarfism
It reads"...adds 1 point to his Disciple Rating..."
I'm assuming its meant to be to his Discipline Rating

Under Warband Creation, Allied City-States, pg 118, Amazons
It reads "An Amazon warband will never in include..."
The extra in should be removed

stormcricket said:
Just working through my warband for Cancon and came across a couple of minor errors in the beta draft

In the Gifts of Hephaestus section on page 101 under Dwarfism
It reads"...adds 1 point to his Disciple Rating..."
I'm assuming its meant to be to his Discipline Rating

Under Warband Creation, Allied City-States, pg 118, Amazons
It reads "An Amazon warband will never in include..."
The extra in should be removed

Got them, thanks!

I'm working on clearing up the Amazon crone armor, as you guys suggested, the 'heavy robes' was meant as an indication that it was non-metal armor, not really a classification itself.

elpasopete, Xerxes is something of a problem character, as he was created for our Wrath of the Titans book that was planned for 2008, but we were never able to publish it. Xerxes would require several pages of text for his background and powers, and I'm not sure we can fit him into the book (as the page count is now over 330!)

will everybody be able to view a copy of the updated rulebook soon?

Hel1kaon said:
will everybody be able to view a copy of the updated rulebook soon?

Were you a Kickstarter backer? It is viewable for backers in the most recent update.

Osiris said:

Hel1kaon said:
will everybody be able to view a copy of the updated rulebook soon?

Were you a Kickstarter backer? It is viewable for backers in the most recent update.

I was not a backer, and am unsure how to back now.

With preview 2 on page 319 paragraph 3 (towards the end) it reads Asar, are they are It should read Asar, they are

Also notices on the same page as above in the first paragraph for the babylon, empire of the god kings it says The region teems with wildlife and the soil pro- vides rich harvests for its people, so it is no wonder that many their cities are older than men

Should read The region teems with wildlife and the soil pro- vides rich harvests for its people, so it is no wonder that many of their cities are older than men

Preview 3 issues so far..

"page 23" 2nd paragraph last sentance given below is a profile of a human warrior armed with sword and shield

the profile then shows a spartan hoplite with a spear and shield and a damage modifier of 2 and an armor rating of 4 (hard 2) dm should be 1 armor rating with that equipment should only be 2 (hard 2) sentance above should read spear and shield not sword and shield

"page 23" paragraph 7 below is given the complete profile, including point value, of a spartan hoplite armed with sword and shield

the profile then shows equipment of just a spear and shield but shows an armor rating of 4 (hard 2) again with that equipment the save should read 2 (hard 2) the above sentance should read spea and shield not sword and shield.

"page 26" the shield entry profile reads damage modifier +2 (hard) it should read armor rating: +2 (hard)

so how goes it over there?

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Chris,

Any updates on the expected release date for the Olympus rulebook ?

Thanks !

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Hi guys

Just a quick question as to when the other kickstarter items, like the amazon cavalry will be available on the webstore.

Hi guys

Just a quick question as to when the other kickstarter items, like the amazon cavalry will be available on the webstore.

I'm not on the page that list people who are getting a printed rulebook. don't reall y care if I'm in the book but want my rulebook when it eventually gets published.

Any estimate for a physical rulebook shipping date yet?

how about now?

progress report?

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Guys- Crock Games had a booth at Historicon last week. Chris said he plans to do final editing in the next two weeks and then send the file to the printers. He estimates two months for printing/binding/shipping to Indy.

thought you could use an update.

Something new- He said he may put together a compendium of the info in CrockTails. Scarab Ogres, Necropolid Guard, etc. But not until the Olympus book is published. He may do a smaller Kick Starter to pay for printing.

El Paso Pete

See you at Fall-In

So that book should be getting close now...….