CBP3 said:
Athenians! Man, I'm gonna need to get some eventually...

Glad to see you guys like them, they have been fun and challenging to sculpt so far!

Croc Games is heading to Historicon this week, so any forum questions will have to wait a few days for a reply.

Thinking to myself "well those look nice to bad I didn't pledge for those...."

Checks year old survey responses, "Demigod Athena, Warband Starter – Athenian"

And I even paid extra to ship them separately. "Way to go past tense me"

@Vandil:

Thinking to myself "Those look amazing!"

Checks year old survey responses, no Athenian

"Stupid, stupid... past tense me"

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Any new tasty morsels for us?

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hazpak said:
Any new tasty morsels for us?

Things have been slow on the sculpting front -- I've spent the last 2 weeks cleaning masters (260 minis so far, and still some to go!) It is a long and tedious process, but absolutely necessary to get the best castings possible.

I'll try and see what I can scrounge up to show off for you guys tomorrow. At the very least, we should be able to assemble the Amazon Archer & Peltast units and get them to pause for a photograph!

Osiris said:

hazpak said:
Any new tasty morsels for us?

Things have been slow on the sculpting front -- I've spent the last 2 weeks cleaning masters (260 minis so far, and still some to go!) It is a long and tedious process, but absolutely necessary to get the best castings possible.

I'll try and see what I can scrounge up to show off for you guys tomorrow. At the very least, we should be able to assemble the Amazon Archer & Peltast units and get them to pause for a photograph!

So this cleaning.. is it of newer models or older models?

How often does this need to be done?

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I believe that the process for casting is:

1. Model is sculpted
2. Mould is created from the green
3. Master metal cast is produced
4. Master metal cast is cleaned up
5. Master metal cast is used to create the production mould
6. Production casts

So in this case Chris is cleaning the masters so that the production casts are as clean as possible (i.e. he's at step 4 in the above process)

I would assume that the green is only used the once, then the master metal is used multiple times

My guess would be that this would happen each time a new master cast needs to be created, which probably depends on how often it's needed to create new moulds...

Oceanborn said:
I believe that the process for casting is:

1. Model is sculpted
2. Mould is created from the green
3. Master metal cast is produced
4. Master metal cast is cleaned up
5. Master metal cast is used to create the production mould
6. Production casts

So in this case Chris is cleaning the masters so that the production casts are as clean as possible (i.e. he's at step 4 in the above process)

I would assume that the green is only used the once, then the master metal is used multiple times

My guess would be that this would happen each time a new master cast needs to be created, which probably depends on how often it's needed to create new moulds...

The above is precisely correct! Very good, sir!

Cleaning the masters is essential to do correctly - if they are sent to the moldmaker with imperfections like mold lines, metal gate vents, etc, these will be on all of the production figures. So, we clean each and ever one as perfectly as possible, so you don't have to.

If there are a lot of greens involved, it can be a long process - especially if something goes wrong. In this latest batch, I erred on the thickness of the archer's bows, and so I've had to go in and thicken each and every bow on the masters. Each mold has about 12 minis in it, and there are 5 archers, so I had to rework 60 miniatures... doh! It would have been better to catch it at the greens stage, but at least I'll be better prepared in the future.

The good news is that all of the greens in the photo below (and a few more) are now mastered, cleaned, and the masters were sent back to our moldmaker on Monday to have their production molds made. I'm now back at the sculpting table, working on the last few bits for the Amazons (herald and musician, expect pics in about a week or so!)

Thank you very much for these explanations

Its quite helpful to understand the time some things need!

cheers Thomas

P.S. I have nearly finished to make my trojans ready for painting. Great sculpting production quality each and every miniature! The masters cleaning pays off I understand now.

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Thanks for confirming Chris - I think I may have forgotten a step, and that is if you're planning to have multiples of the same figure in a mould then you have multiple metal masters to clean up.

I don't remember seeing some of those Amazon poses before. I LOVE what I'm seeing and can't wait for the Amazon's!

Thanks Chris!

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I notice the male hoplites have corinth and mycaenae on their tabs.

First look swordsmen?

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I LOVE THE AMAZONS!!!

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hazpak said:
I notice the male hoplites have corinth and mycaenae on their tabs.

First look swordsmen?

Those are the Mycenaean and Corinthian Archer and Peltast captains.

The Mycenaean Swordsmen are done and dusted, already available in the Croc store! :)

Ahhhhh saw the sword arms and jumped to conclusions...

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ahem... update?

Sorry amazons are a delivery point for me... getting excited

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hazpak said:
ahem... update?

Sorry amazons are a delivery point for me... getting excited

As for me

hazpak said:
ahem... update?

Sorry amazons are a delivery point for me... getting excited

We should have a cool little update tonight!

Ok, here's the latest mechanical menace from Hephaestus' forge... the Bronze Bull!

I am still wrapping up the sculpting, and may add a few more rivets, and still have to cut him apart. He'll end up being at least 4 pieces - 2 body halves, head/horns, and tail. I may also change the horns to make it easier to cast (horns going to the side, rather than sloping forward.) We shall see...

Hope you guys like him, he was a lot more complicated than I had anticipated, I should have known better with multi-part models.

I do like the horns forward! Do your best to keep them

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Another great looking model.

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Can you cut the horns off the head, as a fifth piece?

Yes please!

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Oh yes, another great sculpt ! I also vote for the forward horns, if there is such a thing as voting in this issue

I am really happy having included this beast (robot) to my pledge at a later stage.

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Looks awesome. I would also like to throw in my lot with the horns forward crowd.

The Bull looks awesome.

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Man, I LOVE that bull !! I'm chomping at the bit to paint one!!

Fitz do you have a rough eta for the amazons at this stage?

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Asgard2502 said:
Fitz do you have a rough eta for the amazons at this stage?

Hey guys, we are now shipping the Sparta and Mycenaean rewards, UK and Europe have already gone out, and it will take about 2 weeks to complete the rest.

Automaton and Amazon production will start right after that, but there are a LOT of Amazon rewards to complete, so please bear with us while we get them all together. So, we are hoping to have them all wrapped up by the end of October, if all goes well. Please keep in mind, this is a big faction with lots of parts, with the Automations going out at the same... Everything looks good so far, but one problem part could delay the whole train. We'll do our best to keep it heading down the tracks!

good times to come...

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Hecate said:

Asgard2502 said:
Fitz do you have a rough eta for the amazons at this stage?

Hey guys, we are now shipping the Sparta and Mycenaean rewards, UK and Europe have already gone out, and it will take about 2 weeks to complete the rest.

Automaton and Amazon production will start right after that, but there are a LOT of Amazon rewards to complete, so please bear with us while we get them all together. So, we are hoping to have them all wrapped up by the end of October, if all goes well. Please keep in mind, this is a big faction with lots of parts, with the Automations going out at the same... Everything looks good so far, but one problem part could delay the whole train. We'll do our best to keep it heading down the tracks!

Nice one cheers :-D

I posted in the comments on the latest update, but can we get an alpha copy of the armylists for the amazons and trojans please?

My other army coming is wendigo so I won't be able to get a game and demoing in till I get some rules to hand.

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Asgard2502 said:

Hecate said:

Asgard2502 said:
Fitz do you have a rough eta for the amazons at this stage?

Hey guys, we are now shipping the Sparta and Mycenaean rewards, UK and Europe have already gone out, and it will take about 2 weeks to complete the rest.

Automaton and Amazon production will start right after that, but there are a LOT of Amazon rewards to complete, so please bear with us while we get them all together. So, we are hoping to have them all wrapped up by the end of October, if all goes well. Please keep in mind, this is a big faction with lots of parts, with the Automations going out at the same... Everything looks good so far, but one problem part could delay the whole train. We'll do our best to keep it heading down the tracks!

Nice one cheers :-D

I posted in the comments on the latest update, but can we get an alpha copy of the armylists for the amazons and trojans please?

My other army coming is wendigo so I won't be able to get a game and demoing in till I get some rules to hand.

We're focusing on getting the minis out the door at the moment, but we'll be doing a rules update right after the Amazons ship.

Thanks Chris its always nice to hear that progress is being made.

Just have received my box full of spartans and demigods. Looking at the sculpts I think I should have spent more on this KS. And the yellow coupon tells me the same thing.

Special thanks to Debs for arranging the optimal logistics. You have saved me about $60-$70 and few hours of my life so I really appreciate your help.

Everything looks amazing! AAAAAAHHHHHHHNNNNG!

Can't wait to get my hands on it all!

They say no news is good news - but any news is better ;)

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Hmmm, here's one I don't think we've shown off yet...

That's a nice one thanks

Is the Amazon range complete now?

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Complete I think for wave 1

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OK, time to show off another round of sculpts, these wrap up them Amazons.

First up are the Amazon command figures, the Herald and Musician. The Herald carries a standard that suggests the changing phases of them moon, as well as the tripart aspect of the goddess Hecate. The Musician carries a lyre, based on an actual ancient greek design - made from the shell of a tortoise, and the arms of the harp are made from the horns of a bull. I thought the use of natural elements appropriate to the Amazons!

Next is the Amazon queen, Penthesilea. Penny was a real struggle to sculpt, I ended up starting and restarting the model several times, before I got a pose I was happy with. She's one of those miniatures that is very difficult to photograph because she does not lie on a flat 2d plane... I tried to get a coupe different angles to show, but I should probably have taken a couple more. Her axe arm comes off at the shoulder, and her shield arm comes off at the elbow. I included another pic of Des' excellent concept design too...

These are the last of the Amazons in their first wave, and they are at our moldmaker now! Fingers crossed that the molds come out OK, if so we should have production molds in our hands very soon!

Those look great!

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Looking good. Now I wish I would have gotten the Amazons.

Great job Chris

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They're alright I guess.

A little more practice Fitz and maybe you'll become a professional sculptor some day

When can we expect to get a pdf of the Olympus rules, would it be before or after the Amazons ship?

GoldenSpat said:
When can we expect to get a pdf of the Olympus rules, would it be before or after the Amazons ship?

We will be sending out a PDF rules update shortly after the Amazons (so backers can play them now), but the rulebook will be some months later. The finished book will include all the new factions from the Kickstarter (Athens and Corinth), so we have to wrap these up, paint & photo to include them in the finished book. So a while yet... but you should be able to start playing with the current factions before then.

You sir are a god among titans!

Excellent. They look great.

If we did a paypal pledge, should we remind you guys of this and the details or is it all ok.

Wonderful news on the PDF. Can't wait. (I also received my Mycenae pledge recently pretty pumped).

Any chance of a pic of the amazon honor guard?

About the PDF and paypal pledges, I submitted a payment 7 days ago for a warrior/rulebook pledge level with paypal, and I still have not been contacted about it, is it normal ?

Ahhhh - sorry found the honor guard a few pages back :)

How are the amazones going along

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+ 1

While painting my Trojan archers and spearmen I am curious when to get my 2nd shipment

cheers Thomas

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Jack Trowell said:
About the PDF and paypal pledges, I submitted a payment 7 days ago for a warrior/rulebook pledge level with paypal, and I still have not been contacted about it, is it normal ?

It is now more than a full month since my pledge and still no news, I'm starting to worry.

Did somebody heard any news from crocs since their last post in this thread ?

I can understand that with the amazons near shipping they might have been overworked, but then it would probably be a very good idea to at least post a "sorry we will be very busy for a few weeks" before going dark like that ...

Jack Trowell said:

Jack Trowell said:
About the PDF and paypal pledges, I submitted a payment 7 days ago for a warrior/rulebook pledge level with paypal, and I still have not been contacted about it, is it normal ?

It is now more than a full month since my pledge and still no news, I'm starting to worry.

Did somebody heard any news from crocs since their last post in this thread ?

I can understand that with the amazons near shipping they might have been overworked, but then it would probably be a very good idea to at least post a "sorry we will be very busy for a few weeks" before going dark like that ...

Hi Jack,

I sent you an email on October 26 confirming receipt of your payment and asking for details about your reward selection, but I haven't received a response yet. Please can you email me directly at sales at crocodilegames dot com if you have an alternative email address than the one you used for payment?

Thanks,

Debs

Thank you, I found your e-mail in my spam folder, I'm sending you an answer now.

any news for how the amazones are getting along, cant wait for my order a lot of mini's it will be

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The Amazon production has begun. We are still waiting for the last set of molds to be finished, figures that had some problems and needed to be reworked (Penthesilea and a couple characters) but we've already started casting the warriors, peltasts and archers, and these are about 75% complete. So, likely a couple more weeks of production, and then packing and shipping.

I'll post another update with some pics this week, we can reveal off some bits we've not shown yet (shields, metal Automatons, etc).

Chris, any chances we would get the pictures of automatons? I need something to drool over....

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BlazeXI said:
Chris, any chances we would get the pictures of automatons? I need something to drool over....

That sounds like a good idea. We've not shown off the alternate Automaton Hoplite yet (Human mask and carrying a sword). I did a variation like this, so people who wanted to build units of these can have one as a captain.

I'm putting together a complete set of the Automatons for Debs to paint, I'll blacken them first to get some photos, before we prime them. Pics coming soon!

OK, as requested, here are some images of the Automaton variations - now in metal! Sorry for the delay on these, we've had our hands full with Amazon production the last week.

First up is the Automation Hoplite Captain. This is basically a separate arm/head sprue, this one with a sculpted human 'mask' helmet and a sword. If you order the Automaton set, you'll get the parts to make either option.

Next up is the Bronze Minotaur, he comes with a hand/weapon sprue with 2 options: either an pole-axe or a hooked spear. Put him together with the one you like best!

Last is a picture with the whole line-up, to show their size in comparison to one another. The Minoton is on a 40x40mm base, the Bull is on a 25x50mm base, the Dog and Hoplite are both on 25x25mm bases, and the Owl is shown on a 20x20mm base (although he does not come with a base, I just mounted him on one to photograph. The idea with him is that he can be glued on a model's arm or shoulder, as a pet.)

LOVE these, Fitz. They look awesome.

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Absolutely awesome.

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Good news they are busy with the amazone production cant wait for my demigods and amazons wiee

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These look great Any idea of a shipping date, I begin to run out of Trojans cheers Thomas

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Man they look awesome. Can not wait to get them.

Thanks Chris for the pictures.

NorCal Tony

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Hobdoglin, funny photo, point well taken. We've been hard at work casting, sorting, and packing Amazons and Automatons the last few weeks - there were a lot of them. The first batch of packages have have shipped today, and we'll be sending more this week and next.

We'll have more sculpting updates in a few weeks, after the dust has cleared from Amazon fulfillment.

The first battalion of Amazons has been deployed, and are now marching toward Alaska, Virginia, Texas, and numerous other male-dominated strongholds! More units are massing for the second wave, shipping tomorrow!

I realized as we were packing up orders that there were a couple photos I had forgotten to show off - some of the other shield designs for the Amazon Battle Honors.

Here they are... the Red Hands and the Horse Widows. The Spear Sisters get the 'crescent moon' shield that we've shown off before. Yes, those are real human hands and scalps nailed to the front of the Red Hands shields... nobody ever said the Amazons played nice!

Hope you guys like them!

As I will be painting a warband of these for my wife sometime upcoming, gotta say I am looking forward to seeing these up close. Love the Red Hands shields.

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Wow, had no idea we would be getting such cool shields!

Those shields are awesome sir. Olympus keeps looking better and better.

Variety in shield designs for the Amazones as well, great stuff

Will I have the possibility to select which kind of shields my units will be equipped with?

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powerfrog99 said:
Variety in shield designs for the Amazones as well, great stuff

Will I have the possibility to select which kind of shields my units will be equipped with?

Backers who ordered a single unit have the Spear Sisters shields (moon design).

Backers who ordered a warband (3 units) get one set of each of the Battle Honors (moons, horses, hands).

If you want a different assortment, email us ASAP!

AMAZING!!! I can't wait to get my shipment!!!

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Just received word from my boys that my shipment arrived on the front porch today. I'll meet up with them tonight at my parent's house for Christmas Eve and to get my box of Amazon minis!

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Packaged handed off. Awesome, I'm just blown away by both the quality of the sculpts and the casting.

Pictures of the un-boxing/un-wrapping are on my blog: Your text to link...

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Hey Heisler, Thanks for that unboxing - very well done! I'm so looking forward to my box of goodies! Those amazons are looking fantastic and the Croc always does great casting and I've always found them very helpful! Cheers.

Um Osiris, I though we specified which shields we wanted in the survey you sent out ages ago??!!

Please confirm you need that info again

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hazpak said:
Um Osiris, I though we specified which shields we wanted in the survey you sent out ages ago??!!

Please confirm you need that info again

Not everyone made specific shield requests on their surveys. Those who didn't are getting one of each set.

Hazpak, I checked your survey, we have your shield requests, no problem.

Fitz,

Outstanding job thus far on the Kickstarter. I can't wait to receive mine on the near future...

Is there anyway to review the exact contents of my Kickstarter pledge order? I reviewed all of the reply e-mails I received as confirmation of my pledge last year but can't seem to find the exact particulars of all the add-onsI ordered with the "By The Gods!" Level reward other than the final amount pledged/paid; $492.00.

Is there a way I can review my order to see what I should have coming?

Thanks again for the wonderful gaming experience and Long Live the Croc!

Respectfully, Kevin

Assuming you pledged through kickstarter itself, if you log in and look at the rewards, on the reward you selected you should see a link allowing you to view your responses to the kickstarter survey. (It is definitely there on the desktop site, not sure about on the mobile site)

Asian Sensation said:
Fitz,

Is there anyway to review the exact contents of my Kickstarter pledge order? I reviewed all of the reply e-mails I received as confirmation of my pledge last year but can't seem to find the exact particulars of all the add-onsI ordered with the "By The Gods!" Level reward other than the final amount pledged/paid; $492.00.

Is there a way I can review my order to see what I should have coming?

Thanks again for the wonderful gaming experience and Long Live the Croc!

Respectfully, Kevin

Sure, Debs should have a record of everything you ordered on file - she'll be working on these this weekend, so I'll have her forward over your list then.

Thanks Fitz. I'm not sure if you recall but I was the participant who pledged while being stationed in Korea and since then I moved twice (once to Colorado Springs, Colorado and then to Syracuse, New York). The address listed on the Kickstarter survey is incorrect and the website was unable to send me updates until yesterday. I corrected the e-mail issue and send you a message from the Kickstarter site summarizing my issues. Hopefully you received it by now. Either way, I hope the e-mail connectivity issues did not cause any problems. I hope to hear from Debs soon to resolve any mix-ups. Happy New Year's!

Respectfully, Kevin Major, United States Air Force (soon to be Retired) Liverpool, New York

Awesome news, do we need to confirm details if we did additional PayPal pledges?

Thanks Dave

As one of those that ordered Corinthians and Athenians, I have not received anything so far and am getting envious of all those who have. Chris, have you started the next batch of sculpts or will you be doing the new rule book first?

Pete

oops- sorry for the double post.

As one of those that ordered Corinthians and Athenians, I have received anything so far and am getting envious of all those who have. Chris, have you started the next batch of sculpts or will you be doing the new rule book first?

Pete

Pete - we've seen some of the sculpts (earlier in this thread), at least for the Corinthians, and I'm pretty sure that Chris has said that he's been working on these figures as they need to have at least some done for photos to go in the rulebook...

Foolish Mortals! Ares demands his warrior women! Ha! I can't even say that with a straight face. There is no such thing as a woman that can fight! I demand the bodies of these Amazons to be sent to me post haste! I command you to put their bodies in a box and ship them to me on your fastest sailing vessel! Send me weapons and armor as well!

Do not delay these Commands. My patience grows thin with your petty excuses. You have until sundown to meet my demands, for tomorrow, I will march upon your doorstep with an army greater than you have ever seen to exact vengeance for any delays, real or imagined!

Ares has spoken!!!

Oops, my alter ego took over for a second there. I've had coffee now. Carry on!

Too funny Ares, now most of my coffee is on the laptop screen. Thanks for that.

Got my pledge today. When I open the boxed everything was nice packed and label. Can believe this came from Croc. Then remember Debs is in control of a few things now. Putting order to chaos.

All the minis are so cool. Can wait to start painting them up.

Think I still need a few more mini’s.

Adam

Hi Guys, Just wondering if my Amazon pledge has been shipped? I'm one of the guys who got the Olympian deal with some extras. Cheers, Gareth : )

Thanks Debs, got my confirmation today! Love this Kickstarter!

i am hoping mine are shipped soon waiting for my chicks yeeh

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Any update on how shipping is progressing? Status of things to come?

anything....

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I received my address confirmation email last week...so presumably they're moving along

Agree, still awaiting confirmation ...

Dave Kinsey

Hey guys, we're packing and shipping Amazons as fast as we can - now working our way through the overseas orders. I'll be doing a Kickstarter update later tonight with more details.

More greens coming too, just putting the finishing touches on a few more Athenians!

Hi Chris, being an overseas orderer I love to hear this

Just finished my Trojans, so its time for the ladies now

cheers Thomas

P.S. Athenian greens another great news!!

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Ok, time for another sculpting update... progress has been a bit slower than hoped, as I've been helping with packing orders and last-minute-casting, but I have managed to finish off all of the Athenian hoplites. Woohoo!

Still a few to go, including Theseus, his guards, the Hero, and the archer and peltast captains. I'm also working on a bunch of new shields for them too... one with a ship (for the Companions of Theseus), one with a Trident (for the Poseidon's Faithful) and one a laurel wreath (for the Chosen of Nike).

The Captain is about 95% complete, I still need to do a sword arm, which will be a separate piece and interchangeable with the spear arm. He has a scroll, educated in the Athenian Academies, of course. I may add a few more details and decorations to his armor, grieves, etc. He'll get his own shield as well.

Here are the other 2 Middle/Rear rank Athenians. I tried to make the Athenians a mix of young and old men, to suggest their citizen army... men of all walks of life put on their armor in times of war.

Appreciate the update, Chris - these are looking excellent!

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Any chance for a Raven shield, just read through the Killer of Men series by Christian Cameron and would love to do some Plataeans when ever the Atheans will be on general release.

Lovely sculpts as always!

Nice and brilliant thank you!

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Bloody hell, they're a bit fantastic!!!! Well done!

Oceanborn said:
I received my address confirmation email last week...so presumably they're moving along

Appear to have gotten my addy-confo email at the same time! (19th)... but haven't been checking that email account lately (tsk, tsk, tsk)... done so now... the count-down begins.

eagerly tracking my first package - hope the other gets sent soon

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I got my minis yesterday. Absolutely amazing.

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Me too... ... but haven't had a chance to unbox yet.

Have got confirmation and sent back response confirming details (third and different email address is a charm).

Let me know if there is an issue Debs (or Chris).

Thanks Dave Kinsey

Chris, It's been a month without an update. How are the Athenians and Corinthians coming? Any word on the new rule book?

Pete

You know what would be cool? A summarized list (in a different thread that is not 30 pages long) of what has been completed and shipped, and what is still to be sculpted, and then an ongoing status update on that list, It has got to be getting close to the end, but without weeding thru multiple pages of this thread I have no real idea. And of course an update on the rulebook , well over a year behind schedule and no word if it is even being looked at yet, would be nice.

I keep trying to pull my friends that play Warhammer into this great game, and I continue to get the same excuse. They will consider it when the Olympus book comes out. I have no idea when to tell them that will be. With Warhammer going "thru the change..." this summer will be a great time to introduce a new game to people who are rage quitting that game.

Mordante said:
You know what would be cool? A summarized list (in a different thread that is not 30 pages long) of what has been completed and shipped, and what is still to be sculpted, and then an ongoing status update on that list, It has got to be getting close to the end, but without weeding thru multiple pages of this thread I have no real idea. And of course an update on the rulebook , well over a year behind schedule and no word if it is even being looked at yet, would be nice.

I keep trying to pull my friends that play Warhammer into this great game, and I continue to get the same excuse. They will consider it when the Olympus book comes out. I have no idea when to tell them that will be. With Warhammer going "thru the change..." this summer will be a great time to introduce a new game to people who are rage quitting that game.

I think these two points are excellent!

And to allow as much time as possible to The Croc to keep working away at the 2nd Point (i.e., finishing sculpts allowing for completion of the rules), I'll volunteer to create the new thread, if there are no objections. I regularly keep up with the Kickstarter site comments and the multiple threads on this board, so it is not an issue for me to edit the first post of the new thread as updates are shared.

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New Thread started

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Hey guys

Trojan PDF update is up, Kickstarter backers can get the download link on the Update page:

Kickstarter Update Page

I'm working on the next batch of Athenians (Theseus and his guards), but they are in the 'not pretty' state at the moment. I'll put up some images once I get them reasonably presentable. We're going to be having more updates relating to the book in the coming weeks, there will be lots to show off as it comes together.

The idea for a compiled progress thread is a good one... this thread was meant to be for sculpting updates, but it has turned into a catch-all kickstarter thread, and it has gotten pretty unmanagable. (That's not a complaint, just an observation.) I'll see what we can put together this weekend, so we can more clearly show where we are.

Thanks for releasing the Trojan warband rules. I do have a couple of quick questions. Does the Apollonian Guard count as hoplites or missile troops as far as percentages go? I don't really have an argument either way as I have not had a chance to play with them and probably won't be able to for a while but either choice is likely to have consequences on army selection and performance on the table.

Also with the Apollonian Guard, seeing as they cannot take the phalanx formation can the spears of the second rank be used in combat when/if the Apollonian Guard charges or are they considered to have hand weapons instead of spears, not able to use that equipment, or something else along those lines? I know when they are charged they revert to hand weapons but when it is the other way around the wording could open up issues if not spelled out.

Sorry if these questions seem too nitpicky but one of the things I love about Wargods is the clarity of the rules and the ability to talk directly to those that make the game so that questions get answered in an official fashion. Much better than certain games I can think of.

Anstpuppet said:
Thanks for releasing the Trojan warband rules. I do have a couple of quick questions. Does the Apollonian Guard count as hoplites or missile troops as far as percentages go? I don't really have an argument either way as I have not had a chance to play with them and probably won't be able to for a while but either choice is likely to have consequences on army selection and performance on the table.

Also with the Apollonian Guard, seeing as they cannot take the phalanx formation can the spears of the second rank be used in combat when/if the Apollonian Guard charges or are they considered to have hand weapons instead of spears, not able to use that equipment, or something else along those lines? I know when they are charged they revert to hand weapons but when it is the other way around the wording could open up issues if not spelled out.

Sorry if these questions seem too nitpicky but one of the things I love about Wargods is the clarity of the rules and the ability to talk directly to those that make the game so that questions get answered in an official fashion. Much better than certain games I can think of.

I started a new thread for Trojan rules discussion:

Trojan Rules Thread

Fitz or Debs,

Concerning the last few days of Pay Pal Pledging...is the warband level pledge the minimum pledge? Or can we purchase Amazons thru add-ons (i.e, a Starter Set and an archer unit)? Likewise for the automatons...do we have to purchase all 5, or can we get them individually? My Demigod of Hephaestus demands to know. ;)

Thanks!

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Hektor said:
Fitz or Debs,

Concerning the last few days of Pay Pal Pledging...is the warband level pledge the minimum pledge? Or can we purchase Amazons thru add-ons (i.e, a Starter Set and an archer unit)? Likewise for the automatons...do we have to purchase all 5, or can we get them individually? My Demigod of Hephaestus demands to know. ;)

Thanks!

Yes, you can still add Amazon and Automaton add-ons until Paypal Pledging closes for them, after March 22 (just 3 days away!)

Just let us know what you need and we'll get it sent!

Back at the sculpting table, here is the latest to reach completion... the Athenian Honor Guard. There will be 2 of these, the other will be a conversion of this green.

He will likely have a different shield, but the pictured shield is also new...

Amazing!!! I should have taken Athenians (and called them Plateans) as well. Will we get a special hand/arm for Theseus holding a minotaur head? As was spoken about during the Kickstarter?

You could do Ariadne as well, I will never get tired of you sculpting women!

Fantastic! Can't wait for Athens and Corinth to be completed, as the book would be next.

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Lovely work Chris.

My Amazons have arrived and looking forward to unboxing them on the weekend.

Athenians look really cool!

Any update on the amazon pdf?

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Asgard2502 said:
Athenians look really cool!

Any update on the amazon pdf?

I'll be getting the Amazon PDF together in the next week or 2 - right after I finish up the current Atheneans I'm working on.

Glad you like the Athenians so far. Theseus and the Hero are now both nearly complete... Theseus just needs his slotta-tab and his shield (the metal shield in the photo is just a stand-in.)

The Hero is not so far along, but I should have a photo ready in a couple days. He just needs his hands and weapons.

Also dropped off the latest batch of greens to be molded, so we should have masters of these in the next couple weeks:

Excellent work, Chris! In my opinion, Theseus appears the most noble of the various Olympus City State specific nobility sculpts thus far.

Definitely looking forward to this Athenian release

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Is PayPal pledging still open for the Athenians? They are incredible!

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Should be - I know I intend to up my pledge....

Luckily I have time to save up

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Asgard2502 said:
Is PayPal pledging still open for the Athenians? They are incredible!

Yes, you can still get the Athenians by Paypal pledging:

Paypal Pledging

Athenian Hero update tomorrow! :)

Awesome cheers!

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Yes it is open for Athenians and Corinth.

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The Athenian Hero has been completed! I went with a spiral and wave decorative theme with this guy, as Athens is a major naval power. The shield shown will not be the one he is sold with - but it will be the same shape.

Also complete is the Athens Armor Rack. His armor rack includes a scroll in a case, to suggest they the Athenians are literate and cultured. I have to confess, I have been enjoying making all of the little armor panoplies, they are all going to make for an awesome 'armory' scenic piece when completed... just 1 more to go!

Hope you guys like these, I'm now working on the Herald, Musician, and alternate Honor Guard models, and some shields and odd bits to boot. I should have another greens update ready in about 2 weeks.

That is seriously cool!

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Did a big PayPal order for an Athenian army hehe, hopefully I can get either my amazon's or wendigo painted before these arrive!

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Great job on the Athens!

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Skookum!

No doubt I'll be adding some Athenians too.

I have to ask, has anyone in the UK gotten their order yet?

I am out traveling for work a lot, and I asked to have it sent to the office, but they haven't received any packages for me... So I am starting to get a bit worried.

Do you mean of the amazons? Yeah they arrived ages ago

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Yes the Amazons, I have not received any so I am a bit at a loss now...

And thanks for the information Asgard!

Did you pledge just for the infantry miniatures, or the cav and/or rulebook as well? If the latter, did you pay for separate shipping?

I only put in for the minis only warband yeah, I would contact Croc and PayPal them another shipping cost

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Just finished are the Athens Archer Captain and the Athens Musician. These were both fun to work on, I've really begun to enjoy sculpting the Athenian armor. There are now only 2 minis left for Athens, the Herald and the Peltast Captain, both currently underway. If all goes well, I should have the complete Athenian warband sculpted by the end of this month (May).

Here are some pics, hope you guys like them!

More Great Work Chris.

I may have to revisit the Athenians. The models are really nice.

Tony

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That Athenian archer captain is brilliant! Amazing detail, dynamic pose, amazing execution, congratulations!

Brilliant. When I finish painting Spartans I will reward myself with buying Athenians.

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I am sure glad I bought Athenians two years ago. I've been waiting a long time for my first figure.........getting anxious.

I missed the Kickstarter. I missed the Amazons and the Automatons by a few days.

These Gods, these Amazons, these Automatons, these Athenians, well everything in this Olympus range, are so stunning and well sculpted that I'll probably succumb to this Sirens' song

It seems that I can still order the Athenians and the Gods.The Corinthians too. Too late for the Automatons and probably also for the Gates of Troy.

By Zeus, these Athenians and Gods will surely be mine

Osiris said:
Just finished are the Athens Archer Captain and the Athens Musician. These were both fun to work on, I've really begun to enjoy sculpting the Athenian armor. There are now only 2 minis left for Athens, the Herald and the Peltast Captain, both currently underway. If all goes well, I should have the complete Athenian warband sculpted by the end of this month (May).

Chris,

Will you be completing Athenian specific alternate sword arms for the front rank hoplites, as well? Just mentioning it while you are in The Zone with regards to sculpting Athenians

And these sculpts look absolutely fantastic! I'm looking forward to painting them, hopefully this summer!

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Karameikos said:

Osiris said:
Just finished are the Athens Archer Captain and the Athens Musician. These were both fun to work on, I've really begun to enjoy sculpting the Athenian armor. There are now only 2 minis left for Athens, the Herald and the Peltast Captain, both currently underway. If all goes well, I should have the complete Athenian warband sculpted by the end of this month (May).

Chris,

Will you be completing Athenian specific alternate sword arms for the front rank hoplites, as well? Just mentioning it while you are in The Zone with regards to sculpting Athenians

And these sculpts look absolutely fantastic! I'm looking forward to painting them, hopefully this summer!

Yes, the Athenian sword arms are already completed. They are visible above in the post dated April 15.

Ah yes, I was too busy eyeballing some of the other figures in that tray at the time, and it seems I forgot the sword arms were there...

Thanks for the clarification: loving the options for variety!

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I posted these to yesterday's Kickstarter update, but here they are as well, for completeness sake... the last of the Athenians! All of the Athens sculpts are now complete!

First up is Theseus, the king of Athens and slayer of the legendary Minotaur. We've shown Theseus before, but this is the finished version including his shield. The shield shows a stylized image of the Minotaur's head, surrounded by a wave pattern (Theseus is a son of Poseidon.) His armor, as well as that of his bodyguards, was designed to have a slightly more archaic look than the rest of the Athenians.

Next we have the Athenian Herald and Musician. The Herald carries a standard showing the Aegis shield of Athena, surmounted by a laurel wreath and owl. The Musician is a simpler model, blowing a horn whose shape mirrors the curl motif used to decorate Athenian armor.

Last are the Peltast and Archer Captains. These guys lead the 'universal' peltast and archer models, they are intended to look like more wealthy warriors than the peasants and conscripts that they lead.

These greens will be heading to the moldmaker's this week, and we'll be working on their production molds over the course of the next month or so (there are a total of 27 different production molds needed for the Athenians, so it will take a few weeks!). If all goes well, we hope to begin shipping them to Athenian backers around late July (let's keep our fingers crossed!) If you are not an Athenian backer and would like to add them, Paypal Pledging will remain open until production begins. You can find to the Paypal Pledging page here:

https://www.crocodilegames.com/kickstarter.cfm

Next up: Corinthians!

Excellent work, Chris!

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timeframe for paypal pledging? need to get myself sorted for this one.

The starter just isn't enough now

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hazpak said:
timeframe for paypal pledging? need to get myself sorted for this one.

The starter just isn't enough now

Like to kow also; I must start planing my wargame expenses.

DJ

Lovely sculpts again thanks for these Fitz. Now I just need to upgrade my pledge - again

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Very nice sculpts. I'd like to know too what is the deadline for the Athenians Paypal pledging. "Trojans and Demigods are no longer available through Paypal Pledging " Can the Gates of Troy still be added though? I suppose also that the 8 Demigods are still available but only at the By the Gods or Olympian levels.

Still no word on a cutoff date? I have cash here to spend but for various reasons wont be putting it down until i know it will be honoured

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hazpak said:
Still no word on a cutoff date? I have cash here to spend but for various reasons wont be putting it down until i know it will be honoured

I would email or call them directly. No telling how often Debs checks the forum.

Hey guys

Sorry for the delay in replying, I don't check the sculpting thread daily unless I have new stuff to show off.

Pledging for the Athenians and Corinthians is still open. I can't give an exact cutoff date, as it depends when the molds are all completed. We've handed all of the sculpts off to our new moldmakers, and as soon as all of the molding is complete we'll announce a cutoff date. I'm hoping to be able to ship the Athenians in July-August, so if you pledge now it will be honored.

Another note - we are soon going to have to raise the cost of the warband pledge levels by $5-$10 each. The reason beacuse the final 2 warbands (Athens and Corinth) have a disproportionally higher weight compared to the Amazons/Trojans because their warriors all have cloaks - thus their metal cost ends up being over 50% more. However, we'll be keeping the price the same until the end of the week, so if you want you get in on the original price, there is still time.

Here are a couple more Athenian pictures from the last batch that went to the moldmaker.

First are the Athens shield options:

Next, another shot of the Hero. Since his spear arm was going to be a separate piece, I decided to make another arm, to allow 2 weapon options - spear or trident. They'll both be on the same sprue, so each one includes both... pick the one you like!

Hope you guys like them!

The trident hero is wicked!

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Ok - i've upped my pledge for more phalanxes for my athenians and corinthians. No more half measures!

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The shields look great. Nicely done.

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Update?

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I'm in the middle of sculpting the Corinthian warriors, we should have some images worthy of showing off in a week or so.

Now that is good news

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The Corinthians are coming!

The first few Corinthian hoplites have been completed, pictures attached.

These models are a combination of my work and Todd's. Unfortunately, Todd has run into some pressing time conflicts and can not get the rest of the Corinth sculpts finished as fast as we need them, so I've stepped in to complete the unit. Todd made the original bodies (the metal bodies in the photos) and I sculpted the helmets and all the new green/bronze elements.

There are going to be several more variations on these, I made a bunch of parts that can be assembled into different warriors. The Corinthians are rich, and their armor and weapons are meant to be the best that money can buy, so each warrior is intended to look very ornate. Hopefully it is coming across! The next round of sculpts will have more 'gear', such as swords, daggers, and money pouches.

All of the shields shown are from the Corinth mercenary Battle Honor (a unit with warriors with all different shields.) I'll also be doing the Pegasus shield in the next batch, the standard shield for the Corinthians.

Hope you guys like them!

Thanks a lot for these nice pictures and the background info. I was already wondering why all of a sudden you wrote that you are sculpting the Corinthians.

A phalanx with long coats and nice big round shields with different ornaments - great

cheers Thomas

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Glad we are progressing.. Sad that Chris sculpting Corinthians we slow down other things

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Every time I see a new sculpt, I find myself wondering how big of a pledge I need to make to get them all. Yes, every time! The level of detail and animation is once again above anything else in the market.

After waiting 2 years for the Corinthians, I can now look forward to receiving my first model. The wait looks worthwhile.

Lovely new Corinthian sculpts! Hopefully the presence of new sculpts means that it won't be too long til the Athenians land with those of us who pledged for them I'm itching to start painting...

I have to wait til the Corinthians are ready before I get my Athenians

Ps no contact/confirmation as yet about my PayPal pledge increase

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More Corinth bits! The Armor Rack and Casualty. We now have one of these for each Olympus faction, I'll get a photograph of them all together once we get these last ones in metal.

All the armor racks together are going to make a great armory for Hephaestus!

Fantastic as per usual! Well done!

It was very quiet here these last weeks, are there no news for us, maybe something like shipping dates for the Athenians?

Thanks

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I am happy to report that the casting for Athens is complete, and we are wrapping up the packing now.

We'll be sending out the first of the Athens rewards at the beginning of next week. Athens backers should be getting a shipping address confirmation email this weekend.

I've been sneaking in a bit of sculpting too, in between casting and sorting - Bellerophon and his cronies are shaping up, they should be presentable in the next week.

Glad to hear it, Chris! Looking forward to receiving the Athenians, and seeing the Bellerophon sculpting preview

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Just a quick message to say that my Athenians arrived today! Stunning sculpts, amazing models! Everything I hoped and more besides - they look even better than the pictures suggest.

I shall enjoy painting these IMMENSELY!!

That sounds promising Andy, thanks ;-)

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any new previews coming our way?

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hazpak said:
any new previews coming our way?

Sorry for the delay guys, I've been juggling several different jobs the last couple weeks.

The good news is that I'll be posting pics of Bellerophon on Tuesday!

Here's a couple quick pics at what's on the sculpting table.

Bellerophon is about 85% complete, he still needs his hand, neck, hair, and sword to be finished, and a few other little details polished. These last bits always seem to take longer than expected!

The Corinth Captain is nearly finished, he just needs his shield (the one pictured is just a generic Corinth shield) and maybe a bit if sculptural detail on his hip armor plates.

I'm also working on the bodyguard, but he's not as presentable, maybe in a few days...

Well those are pretty jaw-dropping.

Gob-smacked with quality again, Chris.

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Looking great Chris. I can not wait to get my pledge.

Tony

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Bellerophon's breastplate is some of the sickest work you've ever done!!!

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Damn dude! The Athenians and Corinthians are incredible. I'm so glad you ended up doing these Fitz (nothing against your other sculpters) but everyone I show the regular hoplite greens to cannot believe they are just the "normal troopers". They all look like other companies characters. And then your characters are just plain on another level completely. I'm sure your getting tired of having to be the lone wolf sculpting but don't ever stop man. Any delays are going to be well worth the wait! Pete PS you get all this Greek stuff done and I'd love to see your take on Wargods Assyrians and Babylonians

Really love the Corinthians... really happy I picked them and the Amazons even if it will mean waiting a few more months!

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So what's new?

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hazpak said:
So what's new?

We're back from the holidays, I'm working on a general progress update to go up this week. New putty has arrived as well (I've been out the last 2 weeks, but it was OK as I needed to wear the 'writer hat' to finish up the Athens rules stuff anyway.)

Bellerophon is now completely finished too, better pics coming.

Looking real good - as per usual! : ) Any news on whats happening next in your list of things to do - Don't mind waiting but just wondering about the book. Also, would love to see maybe a digital book of all of your wonderful artwork - from all of your books. Just an idea. Great stuff mr Croc & co.

GarethPannan said:
Looking real good - as per usual! : ) Any news on whats happening next in your list of things to do - Don't mind waiting but just wondering about the book. Also, would love to see maybe a digital book of all of your wonderful artwork - from all of your books. Just an idea. Great stuff mr Croc & co.

This month has been entirely work on the book, so far. I just completed 3 of the last 5 Specialists for the game - slowly getting there! Olympus has a lot more character options than Aegyptus, and making them all interesting, balanced, and fun to play has been an adventure! I may post one of these (Thaumaturge) here on the forums to get some player feedback.

We'd love to do an art book someday, but have to get all this done first! :)

That is great to hear. I was getting very discouraged, since the only thing I ordered was the book, and it is well over a year late. I wanted to wait for the book before I decided what model faction to buy. Unfortunately, it has taken so long that all of the local regulars have moved on to other games. I was hoping with the death of Warhammer to pull some of the Warhammer refugees to Wargods, but without something new and shiny to show them in terms of a game or minis they can just go buy at the store, that ship has sailed. I've moved on to Kings of War, and certainly will end up using my Wargods models in that game, but hope to come back to Wargods when the new book comes out to give it a go. Please keep chugging away on the book. Any idea when the ETA for a finished product will be?

Thanks for the update Chris! You guys are certainly very busy but doing a great job! I would get a digital art book from you guys, whenever you got round to it! : )

Sorry for the delay, guys. I've been writing as well as sculpting this month, and it has been exhausting trying to juggle multiple duties. My apologies!

Just posted a general progress report on the Kickstarter Updates page, you can see it here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1820979427/wargods-of-olympus-mythology-miniature-battle-game/posts/1479541

New (finished & better) pics of Bellerophon, as well as the Corinth Hero and Captain too:

Ooh spiffy as usual! I would love to paint these up, what with my bum leg and brain and all.

One thing dawned on me with the last update on KS... the last items will probably be sculpted around the end of this year, going out sometime early 2017. I decided to have it all shipped in one go, if I remember correctly well over 600 USD.

So this means that I will get my stuff sometime 3 ½+ years after pledging. I think I can honestly say, that Fitz, Debs and Crocodile Games are probably the only people on Kickstarter I would trust for this long with my money. I think in addition to the great quality of your products, this really is something you can be proud off!

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Hear Hear!!!

There are a few threads on Facebook gaming groups now, where people are fed up with Kickstarters. I have not encountered bad comments on Croc. I agree with you Preseus. I did get my minis, though. And yes, they are stunning. I wish I could pledge more, but cannot justify ordering more before I paint something myself (mate painted my amazons for me). Now I should paint Spartans than Trojans then I will purchase more minis.

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Hey Fitz I sent a email about paying to get my Athenians shipped now instead of waiting for the Corinthians.All my other Wargods stuff is painted, I need something to paint! LOL

Hey guys - Perseus, Garth, Blaze - thanks so much for the vocal support, we really appreciate it!

I don't have a lot to show on the miniature front - about a month ago I agitated a nerve in my right elbow, which has caused my little finger and ring finger on my right hand to go numb (like when you hit your 'funny bone'.) My doctor told me to try to keep it straight and not bend it much, so there has not been much sculpting progress this last month.

The good news is that it is getting better, now it is just a minor tingle rather than full-on numbness, so I'm hoping to be back at the sculpting table in a week or 2. Fingers crossed!

It has not been time lost though, as I've spent the last month working on the book (which needed the attention anyway!) Great progress on that front - I've got a couple of our regular players looking over the latest rules, and plan to start making a few of these sections available to backers before the end of the month. This way, we'll hopefully be able to find any errors/discrepancies before we finalize the text for printing.

Hope you get to 100 percent soon Chris! I am looking forward to the Athens faction PDF.

Sorry to hear about the numbness, but I am glad it is getting better!

Take good care of yourself,

Burkhard

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Back sculpting yet? Anything to release to us yet?

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I hope your feeling better sir and glad you still managed to get some more stuff done on the book! We'll done! : )

I've been back to sculpting the last week and a half. My hand is not quite back yet, but it is not as bad as it was - I've been doing some stretching exercises, hopefully they'll pay off eventually. I can work for a while, so long as I don't rest my elbow on the desk or chair (yeah, it was awkward to get used to!)

I'll have some pics tomorrow of some more Corinth hoplite poses, getting ready for a bigger update at the end of the month.

Osiris said:
I've been back to sculpting the last week and a half. My hand is not quite back yet, but it is not as bad as it was - I've been doing some stretching exercises, hopefully they'll pay off eventually. I can work for a while, so long as I don't rest my elbow on the desk or chair (yeah, it was awkward to get used to!)

I'll have some pics tomorrow of some more Corinth hoplite poses, getting ready for a bigger update at the end of the month.

Excellent news!

Osiris said wednesday, Mar 02, 2016 at 10:23 AM:
It has not been time lost though, as I've spent the last month working on the book (which needed the attention anyway!) Great progress on that front - I've got a couple of our regular players looking over the latest rules, and plan to start making a few of these sections available to backers before the end of the month. This way, we'll hopefully be able to find any errors/discrepancies before we finalize the text for printing.

Excellent too. If you want help you have my email!

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OK, so trying to sculpt the last couple weeks, I was messing around with some 'large' items, as it was hard to do fine detail. So I was playing with some Titan head variants to get back into shape. They were actually a pretty good exercise, as the detail was big and chunky. Here they are... the pics make them look bigger than they are, these are sized for Titan Masters.

Also have some more poses of Corinthians, will put this up in a few minutes.

Here are some new poses for the Corinth unit, the top 2 are front rank and the bottom are rear and middle.

Just the Herald, Musician, and Honor Guards left for Corinth!

Love those, especially the cyclopean Titan head!

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Beautifull work again (if you can call scary titan heads beautiful!). Later on I can see myself getting some of those Corinth guys - money permitting. You seem to be able to manage to get the look of heroic and realistic all at once!! I don't think I know any other sculptor that can do that quite like you! Well done! : )

So want the Titan heads now that I've seen them.

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