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Beautiful. Great work as always. Thanks for the update Fitz!
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EPIC!
What size base you think will be needed for her?
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She looks great!
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![]() Akori said:I've put her on an integral base (like the Mysterious Stranger miniature). She does not really fit on a 20 or 25 slotta, so I think this is the best solution... nearly complete now!
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Great work as always. She really rocks. Tony
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Hi so just for my own info. What is the status of the armies. I mean which ones are ready? Being worked on? Still in the concept stage. I been trying to get an idea so I get a rough idea where figure are in the development of the project. I got a Amazon army with Hecate and Artemis. Plus all these unlock figures. I am just wondering some news cause I don't get any on the KS site.
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Oracle looks great. Any updates on the demigods rules?
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![]() Cavalier1645 said:I'm trying to focus on the stuff that was scheduled first, so it's Demigods - then the Trojans - then the Amazons. We're running about 2 months behind on these, but I'm finished all of the miniatures and components as fast as I can. We expect to start shipping the Painter-level rewards very soon - all of the Demigods have been molded and I'll be picking up the first production castings this week. Trojans will be a little later, as I still have to finish Helen of Troy, and a couple bits (Battle Honors shields, sword arms). About half of their molds are now complete. Amazons come after the Trojans, and I'll have several models to complete for them. I expect to be finished with Helen and the last of the Trojans by the 15th of November, and after that I'll be on the Amazons 100% - so we can expect to start seeing some new greens for the Amazons completed in early December - they will have a lot of components to be molded (just like the Trojans) so I'll be posting updates as we get the last greens and molds completed.
As for the latest progress, the Oracle is now 100% complete!
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Good stuff. Where does the automaton minotaur fall in?
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![]() boltman201 said:Automatons should be with the Amazons.
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Cheers for the update Chris! : )
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And done!
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Nice! useful piece for an objective driven game.
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Thanks for the automaton update.
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Will she have game rules at all? I forget...
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Maybe the Greek version of the 'Riddle of the Sphynx" scenario?
She looks great all put together!
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I so need to get another oracle,
When I graduate (a BA majoring in Ancient Histroy), I was thinking of giving some of my lecturers a painted mini as a thank you gift. Croc has given me so many ideas! My closest lecturer, who I am likely do do Masters with, did his PhD on Prophetic speech, and was the first to prove the Delphic oracle spoke in her own voice (not gibberish as translated by men). This mini is perfectly clothed, I didn't want to give him anything too racy. Tom will be given a Demigod of Dionysus, he is an expert in Republican Rome, but he looks like the figure, especially the cheeky gleam in his eyes. Peter will get a Roma emperor. For Susanne, who is an Egyptologist I will paint up a Priestess of Bast. Paul will get a Spartan something. I would like to give him a Corinthian Captain/hero but they wont be ready in time.
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In addition to the 165 Trojans and Amazons I ordered, I did a separate PayPal pledge for one of the demi-gods. Am I likely to see this figure on my doorstep in the near future, or has everything been moved back again?
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![]() Alcibia said:If you made a separate pledge for a Demigod + shipping, it will be going out with the first wave (of the 'Painter' rewards, some of these are shipping this week.)
Please send specific reward questions to us directly through Kickstarter, so that Debs can make whatever notations are needed to your survey & rewards. This thread is for showing off images of new greens and art, lets keep it focused on the fun stuff. Thanks!
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Let me apologize, it was never my intention to allow my enthusiasm to make me a nuisance.
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Sculpting progress continues! While working on Helen of Troy, I've been finishing up the last of the Trojan poses, and there are 4 here to show off - Swordsman, Musician, Archer #3 and Archer Captain. These guys are making their first appearance here, but they are already at our moldmaker's for their master-mold now!
I'm still working on Helen, but she is coming along slower than I would like, as most of the last week was spent getting the Demigod miniatures out the door. I'll get pics of her up as soon as she feels she is looking presentable, but it will be a few days...
And now, more Trojans!
The musician pictured above also comes with a shield, but I did not have any handy when taking the photo.
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Sculpts are looking cool as always...you must be pleased to see the first batch of rewards going out! I bet sorting through everything can seem a tad daunting.
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Looking great Chris, pleased I pledged for a swordsmen unit.
Plenty of detail in relief, should be a pleasure to paint. Just out of interest did you end up doing all the shield options? Cheers Stu
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Chris - Magnificent sculpts as always. Well worth waiting for. IMHO, WarGods are the best looking minis out there - bar none !
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Fantastic! Looks great!
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Great job really regretting not buying these first
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an update this week?
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I'm still struggling with Helen sculpture, she is proving to be one of the most troublesome figures I've worked on recently. (No surprise really, considering all the trouble she caused for Menalaus back in the day!) I've had a couple false starts on her, but the latest revision is starting to shape up. I'll be posting pics as soon as she nears completion, but that will be a while yet.
For those who are eager to see something new and 'green', check out this thread: 'Generic' Hoplite Tread (images page 2)
I just posted some pics of the 'generic' Hoplite I've been working on-and-off the last couple months. More bits for him are coming in the future!
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I realize last week was a holiday event, but am wondering how that Helen is progressing. (not to mention the rest)
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![]() Alcibia said:Chris is back to work on her after the holiday, she's starting to look vaguely human and female. ![]()
We're in the middle of changing our internet service provider, but we should be back online this friday. If all goes well we will have an update this weekend, with pictures! Debs
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Thanks very much!
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Nearly there guys! I was hoping to have Helen wrapped up today, but she still needs some work on her face and hair - hopefully I'll have her finished in the next day or so... stay tuned!
We just got the metals of the Oracle as well, the mold turned out beautifully!
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What does "nearly there guys" mean?
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OK, that earlier post got away before I had completed it! sorry, basically I was curious about general progress and if I am in the wrong place I apologize, but I think, based on past posts that the Trojans should be pretty much complete, the archers for Mycenae and Sparta as well - although we have not seen the leaders for them yet, we still have the Mycenaean peltasts and Spartan swordsmen on the horizon as well. So, I guess what I am wondering is: with Helen almost there, are the second wave miniatures from the kickstarter (the Trojans) ready soon so we can start getting pumped up for the Amazon greens which should be popping up any minute as well!
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What we need is a work-o-meter :)
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The only problem with seeing all these great greens is that it makes me wish I had a bigger gaming budget :(
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![]() Alcibia said:I meant I'm nearly done with Helen. After she's done we'll be getting the Trojans rewards ready for shipping, and once that's done I'll be on the Amazons. Please keep in mind it takes be about 2 weeks to sculpt a figure, and complicated models take longer, so there is still a while before I'll be posting Amazons. ![]() Todd is doing the Archers and Peltasts for the other citystates. We have to compete with other companies for his sculpting time, but he's now currently working on the Peltasts, so we should be able to show off the first of their models fairly soon. Please bear with me guys, we'll have some more cool stuff to show off very soon!
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Ok sounds great Chris
Tony
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I'm happy to wait as your stuff is well worth it!
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OK, she's about 99% complete, so let's show her off! All that really remains are her slotta-tab, the straps on the rear sandal (I need to remove her from the cork to get in close enough to sculpt them) and few clean-ups here and there.
Beauty is a very subjective thing, and to sculpt 'the most beautiful woman in history' that pleases everyone is probably an impossible task. I've tried to stick closely the Des' concept design. We loosely based her appearance on a young Sophia Loren, and for the sculpture I tried to give her something of an otherworldly air with her pose and face, as if her physical appearance closely resembled the stylized form of art that the greeks used - that would be the standard of beauty for the day. Hopefully this is a subtle effect, and I'm looking forward to seeing her painted - after looking at her in green for so long, seeing her in color will be a welcome change! Thanks to everyone for their patience with me as I worked on this mini. Some figures are very challenging, I could probably have sculpted half a dozen rough-and-tumble warriors with swords and spears in the time it to to make her! I'll be cleaning her up and taking some more photos on a base to send out in a general update this weekend. Hope you guys like her!
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This is a really lovely sculpt, even for me being not too great a fan of Sophia :-) , thanks for that.
All the infos about the other progresses (archers, peltasts) are appreciated a lot, as they give me the happy feeling that my Trojan/Amazon army is will show up at my door step early next year :-)) cheers Thomas
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FANTASTIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done! Made me a very happy chappy!
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Worth the wait. Great job, Fitz! Guess we better start building a thousand ships now...
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Very nice! I think you may need to consider actually selling this in the store once the KS people get their free copy! I could see painting this model as Helen (of course) but also with a variant paint scheme she could be used for Medea, Circe, Ariadne etc....just sayin'
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She looks really great. I myself would also lauch a 1,000 ships and fight a 10 year War to recover her beauty SoCal Tony.
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Actually I agree with Alcibia about putting her on your website for everyone once us Kickstarter chaps get ours! She is too good to just be an exclusive - give everyone a chance to paint her! : )
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![]() GarethPannan said:I don't think we could do that; she was promoted as a Kickstarter exclusive, and it would not be right to turn around and sell her separately. I'm not going to rule out doing alternate versions of her and the Oracle, with different heads/details, but that would not be until all my promised Kickstarter minis are completed.
Folks who still want to get her can still join up by the Paypal Pledging - I've been holding off closing it until I got the last of the 'exclusive' minis done.
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Really nice Fitz, 2014 is shaping up to be a great year for painting!
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well as long as you are considering alternate poses or details for the Oracle and Helen, I guess I will be happy!
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That's cool! If I wasn't in the KS I'd be happy to get an alternate version. You're just too darn good at this sculpting marlarky!
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That is a genius sculpt, I just love it.
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Well worth the wait!
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Looks great!
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I noticed you processed my latest order on New Year's Day! Sorry you had to work on a holiday, but since you were working, you must have some Kickstarter news for us, don't you? (anything at all?)
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Happy New Year everyone!
The latest greens from Todd have arrived, the Peltasts! Their shield arms are all separate pieces, similar to the Spartan and Trojan Peltasts.
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ooOOooooOOOOH!
I like those! This just keeps getting better and better! -Alex
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So, what's up for this week's update? Some new Amazon greens? Or how about showing us what Trojan shields you decided to put into production. That way, those of us who pledged for Trojans can start day dreaming about what shield options we may choose once the shipping starts. But I will, of course, enjoy seeing anything you are willing to share!
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The new update should be ready tomorrow. Good idea on the Trojan shields, we'll get a compiled photo of all of them and add it to the update.
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That's going to start my weekend nicely! Looking forward to the update. : )
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Still working on the shield images for the update, but here's a preview of a Trojan we've not shown off before... the Trojan Captain!
He'll come with a couple more options for his hand - a spear and a sword. The idea with him was to make him look like he could be leading a unit or riding in a chariot. Hope you guys like him! (Edited: I just realized I called him the Hero, this is the Captain model! Updated the photo with the correct title.)
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Fancy! I am getting so excited for Trojans!
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Looks great Chris
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of course he looks great, is he second hero choice? how does this one fit in? we did see one Trojan hero quite a while ago (still pictured on the Kickstarter page), so which one comes with the orders we placed, or is this the Tragic Hero we will see this summer?
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![]() Alcibia said:Each faction has a Captain (Champion) and a Hero.
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Hey guys, any updates?
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How about the Trojan Shields? Based on past comments, the Trojans should be in production either now or shortly, time to start putting our orders together for shipping?
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With the Trojan sculptures all complete and at the moldmaker, work has now moved on to the Amazons!
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Cheers Chris, they look great.
At this stage is there a rough estimate of when these girls will be done?
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Looking good. Can't wait for July to get the full Olympus book.
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Sweet. Moving forward is always good.
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As the Amazons are what my Olympian pledge is made up of I'm very happy with these and the other Amazon's that have been shown. Huzzah!!!!
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I am older now, and easily confused, but I am pretty sure this quote from Wednesday would mean that yesterday would have been tomorrow, but is today tomorrow? was yesterday tomorrow? what day is tomorrow? or for that matter, what day is today?
"The torsos for the Peltasts and Archers are also all done, and these will be going to our moldmaker this week to be made into intermediates. For those curious about the sculpting process, I'll post some pics of these tomorrow (we'll be having a Kickstarter Update then too.)" Anything you can share regardless of what day it is?
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I was not happy with the last 2 Amazons posted, so I did a bit more work on them and updated the picture in my last post. (Basically gave them both the sleeved tunic, and added the sword-arm on the front-rank instead of the spear.)
The Kickstarter update is taking a bit longer than expected, but we'll have it out this weekend. In the mean-time, here's another green that has just rolled off the assembly-line:
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Sweet looking model Chris the Women of Olympus are really looking awesome.
Oh and by the way I played a game last night against an Amazon Warband being lead by a Daughter of Ares. Wow talk about tough, two units of slingers with a Misc rating of 5 is brutal. And with the special rule "Hatred of Men" all the Amazons had an Attack rating of 5. Also the Battle Honor Spear Sisters is really wick after two rounds of melee with my Corinthian phalanx. The Sisters had lost enough warriors to have a +3 damage modifier. My phalanx did not last to long after that. But it was a great game and a great opponent. Thanks Joe (Akori)
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You are making me a very happy chappy Chris! Well done. : )
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Cracking stuff! Looking forward to these :-D
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Chris as always, appreciate the update and they look great.
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Great work!
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Amazon progress continues!
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And here's a photo of one of these cast, with the master casting right next to the original. Halfway there with another Amazon!
I'll post more progress on these in a few weeks, when I get castings of both back from our moldmaker.
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Here's another sculpt to show off... the Amazon Peltast Captain!
I spent a looooong weekend, working late to finish this one. Hope you guys like her!
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You Sir are awesome. Great work Chris thanks for the update.
Tony
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Great sculpts as always
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Chris, looks great and thanks for the update.
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Really looking forward to getting these and the wendigo on the table now!
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We are not going to see Trojans in production this month either are we?
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![]() Alcibia said:Guys, I am happy to answer questions like this, but this thread is show off and discuss the new sculpts. If you have questions that are not on this topic (about the greens), it would be better to post them in their own thread. ![]() To answer the question - sorry no, we are still waiting for the last of the production molds to be completed. Our moldmaker was down with the flu for the first part of the month, so we're further behind than anticipated. Believe me, we want to get these to our backers ASAP, so as soon as we have all the molds, we'll get it underway and it should go quite quickly. In the mean-time, work continues on the Amazons, and we should have some new pics to show off this weekend.
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Progress continues on the Amazons... I'm heading to our moldmaker's tomorrow to pick up the castings of the conversion bodies for the peltasts and archers. Ready to go are a forest of javelins and shield arms - as soon as I have the bodies I'll post some more pics 'assembled', before the second round of sculpting starts on them.
Just completed is the Amazon armor rack... I'm considering adding a shield or javelin as well. Once we have all of the citystates complete, these are going to make an awesome armory!
The Honor Guard is nearing completion so we should be able to show off the first model this week.
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Nice work Chris.
Really appreciate the updates.
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Awesome as always sir.
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Here we have the first of the Amazon Honor Guards. There will be a second, who will be holding the polearm in her other hand - so they'll look cool when placed on either side of Penthesilea.
She still has a bit of cleanup to do, and possibly some more trophies hanging from her polearm, but she's basically finished except for her slotta-tab. Hope you guys like her!
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Nice, the only problem I see is that I haven't included them in my Kickstarter list........... ;-)
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as usual, jaw-dropping. however, have you considered an alternate arm? one without a severed head?That grisly trohpy may make the miniature a bit limited for diorama work.
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OK, thanks.
I know this is not the right place to make this statement, but I got a surprise Amazon casting in my last order, and wow, just wow. I am so glad I went for both the Trojan's and Amazons!
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Sweeeeeeeeeet!
Can't wait to get painting on these!
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Are we still looking at july for the book or has that been put back?
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As others have said, lovely work Chris.
Updates are great.
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Since it seems that the exclusives have been finished I was wondering if the Spartans have been shipped out yet.
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I hope that my last post didn't sound rude. I have wanted to play with Spartans since I started Wargods.
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![]() GoldenSpat said:Nope, we still need the production mold for Helen to fill any of the $160+ rewards. The minis are at our moldmaker now though, so it should be happening very soon.
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OK, thanks. I can't wait, all of the sculpts look stellar, they all have such character.
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It is now March 20, 2014. Got anything new to show us?
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Alicibia I sure wouldn't want to work for you ,you probably have the people that work for you manacled to there desk. Lol but like to see a pic soon
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Love the peltast bits ,will be making a a baggage train and theses would be great to fill a wagon another with anvil and armor and one more with wine barrels
Love and respect Jon
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We are putting together a new update, it will be going out this weekend. Stay tuned!
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That's great to hear
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The archer captains from Todd are starting to arrive! First up is the Corinthian Captain, seen below. He's working now on the Spartan and Mycenaean Captains, which we should be seeing soon. I'll be doing the Captain for the Athenians, but he's a bit further down the list...
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Amazing sculpts as always
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Heck yeah. Corinth is started up. Bring on the rest of that city state
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Heck yeah. Corinth is started up. Bring on the rest of that city state
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Agree looking good guys.
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I feel like I have my nose pressed against a shop window not knowing when it will be open.
Perhaps I will come back in 6 months and maybe by then there will be something to buy?
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![]() armchair said:Sorry for the delay on your answer, these minis are part of our Kickstarter program - we've been showing them off here as we get them all completed. They won't be available through retail until after book gets printed (estimated late summer). Sorry for any confusion, there is a lot of information about all this, but it is scattered throughout the Kickstarter program page, and because the program funding period is over we can't update the main page. We're actually prepping for the second wave of fulfillment now (the Trojans), and the Demigods have already shipped. If you are wanting to join the program, you can through the Paypal pledging system - it is still open, and will be until we start casting the Trojan orders (which will be very soon.) If you have other questions, please email Debs at sales@crocodilegames.com and she'll try to help. --Fitz
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Thanks for the reply.
It is a shame all these figures are tied in with the rule book. As I mentioned above I wanted them for my Ancient Greek army for gaming Hail Caesar
I have already donated a sum via paypal in the hope of receiving a unit of 12 Amazon peltasts. It sounds like it will be 6 months before I receive them
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I'm curious if there will be the chance to get the mercenary hoplites added to our pledges?
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Corinth minis look great. Great sculpts from Todd. As always.
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OK, here's an in-progress shot of some of the Amazon Peltasts and an Archer.
The Archer is completed, and the Peltasts are nearly there - they just need their correct shield arms (I stuck one of the warrior shields on the center model, but the finished models will all come with shield/javelin arms just like the Peltast captain posted a couple weeks back. These arms are all already complete, but they are at the moldmaker, and so not available for the photo!)
So where are we with the Amazons? Let's do a quick run-down: Completed: Warriors with spear & shield (all completed), Peltast Captain, Peltasts (2 of 3 poses completed), Archers (1 of 3 poses completed), Hero, 1 Honor Guard, Casualty, Armor Rack, Sword Sprue Still to go: Amazon Champion, 1 remaining Peltast pose (in progress), 2 Archers, 1 Archer Captain (in progress), Penthesilea (in progress), Herald & Musician, 1 Honor Guard conversion If everything goes well I should have all of the Peltasts and Archers wrapped up this weekend.
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Thanks a lot for the pics chris. The models are awesome, as usual :-))
These are the kind of minis I joined that kickstarter business in the first place. cheers Thomas P.S. I really like this complete overview about the state of the sculpting process.
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Appreciate the update. Looking forward to these girls.
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Awesome! Can't wait!
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Best yet, they are GORGEOUS!!!
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These are great. Can't wait to convert some...
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AWSOME!!!!!!!!! Thanks Chris! : )
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Whoops, I meant AWESOME!!!!!
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Any more updates on Trojan production or shipping?
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Amazon Archers complete!
All of their quivers are a separate piece that contains a quiver & sword. I may do another variant that has some grisly trophies as well, like scalps or a severed head.
As for the Trojan production, we're working on the details today, and should be posting an overall Update on the kickstarter page in the next 24 hours - production is almost ready to begin!
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Stunning!
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Simply stunning.
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Yowza! They are bril!!!
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It has been a long time since I managed to pop into this tread, but man, am I glad I pledged for Amazons and Corinthians... they look awesome!
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Just checking in to see if there are any updates
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We're currently packing thousands of Trojans, so no greens update this week.
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I'll be back on the sculpts as soon as we get these out the door!
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wish you were packing mine.. but i'm waiting on the amazons as well :(
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Not a problem Chris, glad to see things progressing.
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Love the Amazons! Can't wait to see them in stores.
I'm really wondering on the status of the rules and the rulebook. Would love an update on that. Once that is available I feel I actually have a chance of getting more people into this game. Until then, I'll enjoy the nice new minis...by myself.
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Osiris
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![]() Mordante said:Work is progressing on the book, especially on the art front. We've been focusing on the minis in the Kickstarter updates, as those were promised first, but once we deliver the Trojans and the Amazons we'll have lots of updates on book progress. (We'd just get a lot of grouchy backers if we were posting book stuff and the minis were still unfinished -- so first things first!) ![]()
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Lol if you think you have grouchy backers you should check out another kickstarter I backed. Keep up the good work.
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If I need to change the address that my models are shipped to who should I contact?
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Hahaha, Greg is right!
The Kickstarter we backed ended 30 days before this one and had Dec 2013 delivery dates. Croc has already started shipping some of their Kickstarter Gear, while the other Kickstarter does not even have a light at the end of the tunnel. They can't seem to get their most iconic miniature, the Valkyrie, done properly. 5 months after they were supposed to have shipped the game and they are still going back and forth with the mini manufacturer about the designs... we'll be getting that game in 2015!
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![]() GoldenSpat said:You can message us through Kickstarter, or email us at sales@crocodilegames.com Please let us know as soon as possible, we are shipping the first of the Trojan rewards this week.
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![]() Akori said:I chose not to back that one because I thought they were being overly optimistic in their delivery dates...mind you, I also expected the Croc one to run behind due to being quite successful (and putting more work on Osiris's desk). But then I also add 6 months to the estimated delivery date of any gaming related Kickstarter now as all the ones I've backed have been late.
So far Croc is a bit late with the Trojans and Amazons, but we still have 3 months before they're late with the rulebook That said, I know that they'll deliver and they have been keeping us reasonably well updated
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Just got the email update to confirm my address in preparation for the shipment of the Trojans! Awesome!
![]() For the record, I participated in two other kickstarters that started before this one, and to date I have yet to see anything from them. As far as I am concerned, it is all good, cause the Sons of Troy will be here soon! Thanks for Chris and Debs for all your hard work.
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